From: Marcin Borkowski <mbork@wmi.amu.edu.pl>
To: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Org Tutorials need more structure
Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2013 10:37:41 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130928103741.7c99ce05@aga-netbook> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAD-VTcG6qntdqrF6hQM1Espqt9M2BL_E0EgzhDsxGCWVpjAUvQ@mail.gmail.com>
Dnia 2013-09-28, o godz. 09:22:02
Joseph Vidal-Rosset <joseph.vidal.rosset@gmail.com> napisał(a):
> Hi Dominik, hi everyone,
>
> Thank you for org-mode and thanks to all who contribute to this
> project.
>
> I am a newby to org-mode , I am an emacs user for LaTeX, mainly, and I
> would be happy to use more and more emacs, so org-mode seems very
> attractive.
>
> I imagine that writing a tutorial is a big work and I hope that I
> will not offend people who have taken this time. But I must say that
> the org-mode manual and the tutorials that I have tried to read are
> not enough progressive for beginners and do not take care of
> difference between interests of people.
>
> Example: I am presently mainly interested to see if it is possible to
> use gnus to write a scientific letter with all conveniences of
> texlive. Of course I can open a tex file with letter class and send
> to my colleague a pdf file. But it would be more convenient to write
> an email and using conversions to html and png images to send to him
> directly this email. I guess it is possilbe to do it with gnus. But
> the documentation is esoteric: I hear about links, but how it works
> concretly with example understanble by a newby ... mystery. It is
> therefore frustrating and quickly discouraging.
>
> So, in my opinion, a good tutorial is divided into precise tasks and
> speaks like that:
> "You need to do that? So, follow me , from step to step, I will
> going to show you how I succeed to do what you want to do, and by
> imitation, you will also succeed ! " A good tutorial avoids to
> suppose that the reader is already an expert.
>
> In a word, too much tutorial in org-mode lack of pedagogical efforts.
>
> Sorry to be speak so frankly, but I hope it will help.
>
> Waiting your help with gnus - latex and conversion in html , etc. etc.
>
> All the best
>
> Jo.
Well, from what I heard, Gnus is a bad example - it seems to be
notoriously difficult to get into. OTOH, with Org-mode it is much
better - I found even the manual *very* accessible, at least for a
long-time Emacs user.
Best,
--
Marcin Borkowski
http://octd.wmi.amu.edu.pl/en/Marcin_Borkowski
Adam Mickiewicz University
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-09-28 8:37 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-09-28 6:11 Org Tutorials need more structure Carsten Dominik
2013-09-28 7:22 ` Joseph Vidal-Rosset
2013-09-28 8:37 ` Marcin Borkowski [this message]
2013-09-28 10:30 ` Suvayu Ali
2013-09-28 11:59 ` Joseph Vidal-Rosset
2013-09-28 12:36 ` Eric Schulte
2013-09-28 13:10 ` Joseph Vidal-Rosset
2013-09-28 16:02 ` Suvayu Ali
2013-09-28 17:19 ` Joseph Vidal-Rosset
2013-10-01 7:59 ` Eric S Fraga
2013-10-01 20:34 ` David Rogers
2013-10-01 21:00 ` Marcin Borkowski
2013-09-28 8:48 ` Marcin Borkowski
2013-09-28 10:09 ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-28 14:26 ` Charles Millar
2013-09-28 16:35 ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-28 17:14 ` Ian Barton
2013-09-28 17:43 ` Marcin Borkowski
2013-09-28 17:48 ` Carsten Dominik
2013-09-28 19:06 ` Ramon Diaz-Uriarte
2013-09-28 19:52 ` Thomas S. Dye
2013-09-28 20:50 ` Charles Millar
2013-09-28 21:31 ` Marcin Borkowski
2013-09-28 21:52 ` John Hendy
2013-09-28 23:14 ` Charles Millar
2013-09-28 23:29 ` Thomas S. Dye
2013-09-29 0:29 ` John Hendy
2013-09-29 7:28 ` Suvayu Ali
2013-09-30 8:04 ` Alan Schmitt
2013-09-30 17:01 ` Eric S Fraga
2013-09-30 18:36 ` Peter Neilson
2013-09-30 21:07 ` Eduardo Ochs
2013-10-01 8:52 ` Michael Brand
2013-10-01 5:34 ` Suvayu Ali
2013-10-01 8:55 ` Marcin Borkowski
2013-10-01 12:40 ` Joseph Vidal-Rosset
2013-09-30 17:56 ` Thomas S. Dye
2013-09-29 8:44 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2013-09-29 15:31 ` Matt Price
2013-09-30 7:25 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2013-10-01 14:08 ` William Denton
2013-10-02 1:10 ` M
2013-10-02 18:06 ` Alan E. Davis
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2013-09-29 16:43 Rustom Mody
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