Re: Outline cycling does not preserve point's position

[Suvayu Ali <fatkasuvayu+linux@gmail.com>]

On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 11:02:35AM +0200, Carsten Dominik wrote:
> 
> On 10.9.2013, at 10:50, Suvayu Ali <fatkasuvayu+linux@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 10:16:06AM +0200, Carsten Dominik wrote:
> >> 
> >> The question is:  What are people using C-arrow for?
> >> 
> >> I think the main application is reasonably fast motion
> >> and selection in a *linear* way.  Is this correct, or do people
> >> disagree here with me?
> > 
> > I use it for navigating a buffer (not necessarily Org) linearly; i.e. go
> > back and forth between parts I'm working on or to peruse the contents of
> > a file.  That said, often I feel the need for a navigation command which
> > allows me to navigate the semantics of the buffer (which exactly what
> > Nicolas's elements based navigation does).
> > 
> >> The amazing element motion commands Nicolas has implement
> >> correspond to sexp motion, as he has said himself.
> >> Maybe C-M-f and C-M-b are the better binding match for these?
> > 
> > I think you are right here.  There is a need for both.  For me, I use
> > linear navigation more commonly; so I would prefer C-<up/down> for
> > linear navigation and some other bindings (like C-M-f/b, as you suggest)
> > for the elements based motion.
> 
> And by linear, I think we don't mean strictly linear, but on a
> paragraph/table/item scale, ignoring hierarchy.

Yes.  However I think I differ a bit on items.  For me in a list like
the following, I would call moving by paragraphs _within_ the list items
linear; so, "Lorem..." → "Cras..." → "Integer..." → "Aenean..." →
"Pellentesque...", and so on.

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  interdum venenatis consectetur. Nulla facilisi. Pellentesque rhoncus
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  dictum, rhoncus nulla ac, placerat est. Pellentesque nec ultricies
  sapien. Morbi ac dictum dui.

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  dapibus libero a felis dignissim, et porttitor elit
  vulputate. Suspendisse mattis lectus quis ante convallis
  pellentesque.

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  ultrices in faucibus viverra, hendrerit eget justo.

Cheers,

-- 
Suvayu

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