From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Marko Vojinovic Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Keystroke inconsistencies between GUI and -nw emacs? Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 19:51:43 +0100 Message-ID: <20130821195143.502c4c27@Yoda> References: <20130821154911.1815b476@Yoda> <20130821183836.73ec49fc@Yoda> <83ioyykjo9.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1377111131 11091 80.91.229.3 (21 Aug 2013 18:52:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 18:52:11 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Aug 21 20:52:11 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VCDVp-0001Aj-Mm for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 20:52:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:56036 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VCDVp-0007zl-3Y for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 14:52:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48780) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VCDVZ-0007zV-J8 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 14:51:59 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VCDVU-0004mC-8J for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 14:51:53 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-we0-x234.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c03::234]:51440) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VCDVU-0004lx-1E for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 14:51:48 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-we0-f180.google.com with SMTP id q58so287543wes.25 for ; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 11:51:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=blhzln24b1y/M5m6+u7wwRRraVT1vxOOdK49js5giSg=; b=H6rrv0tcrQIziPIUcqPkhjjlsOYuoRIrpBPI6xD02AKEstjp+AjqQ9hsgTZJOe/EEi YXJMubuUA2b/ZNeuaRUufnuH5d/pbUXsOrhF9RTLHjY6FIpXLV+QDcIeQf5PjzbXBEkk u0xe2GE4lT/twL5DtPbW9bYIRG34VSV0O2gmTVvvnCCfDbndsLCw/Kve3pNjEvHZAlWO HKcy+UmPWCtkRgekimQKexJyaId1bkeRXetz2+JkcJVAMrO7wUpYxiBYcqGEEDx76GM9 doNbIapP+VDYNjunlVIkmBkjDzBucQXPNG0Tk5Ofag46JcWPtU2vwexazMKgLCra6cuF 6i4Q== X-Received: by 10.194.94.37 with SMTP id cz5mr765199wjb.55.1377111107009; Wed, 21 Aug 2013 11:51:47 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from Yoda (88.210.96.89.rev.optimus.pt. [88.210.96.89]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id r6sm11716522wiw.0.1969.12.31.16.00.00 (version=SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 21 Aug 2013 11:51:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83ioyykjo9.fsf@gnu.org> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.9.2 (GTK+ 2.24.19; x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c03::234 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:93039 Archived-At: On Wed, 21 Aug 2013 21:01:10 +0300 Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > Date: Wed, 21 Aug 2013 18:38:36 +0100 > > From: Marko Vojinovic > > In the GUI the F10 opens the GUI menu, which is ok. The only thing I > > was surprised about is that the GUI menu is not > > keystroke-equivalent to the tmm-menubar. > > The GUI menu is in most cases implemented in the toolkit used by > Emacs, not in Emacs itself. So the shortcut keys that control the GUI > menu are the keys defined by the toolkit. Emacs cannot redefine them, > at least not easily (and if it did, users might complain, since they > are used to what the toolkit does). Oh, I see --- so you are saying that if I run Emacs under, say KDE, then the Qt toolkit would be responsible for the menus, and the corresponding keybindings would be defined and controlled by Qt rather than Emacs itself. Or something along those lines. Ok, it does make sense. Thanks for the clarification! :-) Best, :-) Marko