From: Bob Proulx <bob@proulx.com>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Does anyone really use emacs in terminal?
Date: Sat, 4 May 2013 22:30:07 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130505043007.GB5537@hysteria.proulx.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CACeWA3ihcYdt+xfsNi52D1-c8s9ZAjvSDJ-EFF7H0s92LeQcBg@mail.gmail.com>
Steven Degutis wrote:
> I'm so tired of how Emacs so desperately clings onto the 80s and 90s.
I am so tired of how people take current working tools and modify them
to be something completely different that breaks it for everyone who
was using it. GNOME 3 is a good recent example but there are others
before it.
If you want to take emacs, or any other tool, and fork it off and go
into a different direction that is great! I fully support you doing
that. Emacs has been forked many times already. That is one of the
awesome things about free(dom) software. It gives you the ability to
modify and customize it. If you think emacs is backwards then write
it your way reversed. Call it "scame" because it wouldn't be emacs.
But don't break the existing emacs users to build that new tool. Just
build that new tool. Don't make your gain a loss for others.
"I love you. You are perfect. Now change." I *hate* that!
> So many of its defaults are idiotic, so many legacy features it tries
> to support are just terrible and useless.
Then fork it and do your own thing! But please don't break it for me.
> I often wish there was a modern emacs clone that dropped all these
> legacy features.
Do it! The source is there for you. Or start clean with an empty
directory. There are no limits.
Bob
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2013-05-05 3:06 Does anyone really use emacs in terminal? Steven Degutis
2013-05-05 3:58 ` Le Wang
2013-05-05 4:06 ` Steven Degutis
2013-05-05 4:30 ` Bob Proulx [this message]
2013-05-05 4:33 ` Steven Degutis
2013-05-05 5:38 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-05-05 5:43 ` Steven Degutis
2013-05-05 6:58 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-05-05 17:24 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2013-05-05 19:30 ` Steven Degutis
2013-05-05 6:59 ` Stefan Monnier
[not found] ` <mailman.25179.1367737210.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-05-05 14:27 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-05-05 19:31 ` Steven Degutis
2013-05-05 19:52 ` Mark Skilbeck
2013-05-05 4:32 ` Jai Dayal
2013-05-08 12:51 ` Steinar Bang
2013-05-05 5:34 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-05-05 5:39 ` Steven Degutis
2013-05-05 4:04 ` XeCycle
2013-05-05 4:13 ` Bob Proulx
2013-05-05 4:17 ` Steven Degutis
2013-05-05 4:36 ` Jai Dayal
2013-05-05 5:42 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-05-05 4:31 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-05-05 4:39 ` Steven Degutis
2013-05-05 4:41 ` Steven Degutis
2013-05-05 8:29 ` Peter Dyballa
2013-05-05 5:43 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-05-05 5:46 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-05-09 11:50 ` Luca Ferrari
2013-05-05 6:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-05-05 8:21 ` eniotna
2013-05-06 10:20 ` Bastien
[not found] <mailman.25145.1367723226.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-05-05 3:43 ` Chad Brown
2013-05-07 18:17 ` Cecil Westerhof
2013-05-08 2:30 ` Hugh Lawson
2013-05-08 9:35 ` Nicolas Richard
2013-05-08 15:53 ` Bob Proulx
2013-05-08 20:51 ` Nicolas Richard
2013-05-08 21:08 ` Steven Degutis
2013-05-22 11:01 ` Steinar Bang
2013-05-09 8:26 ` Peter Dyballa
[not found] ` <mailman.25343.1368046244.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-05-08 23:21 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-05-09 8:21 ` Thorsten Jolitz
2013-05-09 8:38 ` Peter Dyballa
2013-05-09 13:39 ` Jai Dayal
2013-05-09 15:26 ` Peter Dyballa
2013-05-09 15:35 ` Jai Dayal
2013-05-09 18:50 ` Peter Dyballa
2013-05-09 18:58 ` Peter Dyballa
2013-05-09 19:01 ` Jai Dayal
2013-05-09 19:09 ` Peter Dyballa
2013-05-09 19:04 ` Jai Dayal
2013-05-09 19:19 ` Óscar Fuentes
2013-05-09 19:27 ` Jai Dayal
[not found] ` <mailman.25426.1368126295.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-05-09 19:09 ` Jay Belanger
2013-05-09 21:08 ` Jai Dayal
2013-05-11 4:01 ` PJ Weisberg
2013-05-11 14:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-05-11 14:45 ` Jai Dayal
[not found] ` <mailman.25436.1368133731.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-05-09 21:58 ` Jay Belanger
2013-05-09 16:00 ` Luca Ferrari
2013-05-09 16:02 ` Jai Dayal
2013-05-09 16:19 ` Óscar Fuentes
2013-05-09 16:25 ` Jai Dayal
2013-05-09 16:40 ` Óscar Fuentes
2013-05-09 16:46 ` Jai Dayal
2013-05-09 17:04 ` Óscar Fuentes
2013-05-09 17:11 ` Jai Dayal
2013-05-09 17:27 ` Óscar Fuentes
2013-05-09 17:50 ` Steven Degutis
2013-05-09 16:51 ` Óscar Fuentes
2013-05-09 16:19 ` Hongxu Chen
2013-05-09 16:27 ` Jai Dayal
2013-05-11 18:13 ` Luca Ferrari
2013-05-11 18:14 ` Jai Dayal
2013-05-11 19:12 ` Peter Dyballa
[not found] ` <mailman.25563.1368296076.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-05-11 20:14 ` Jay Belanger
2013-05-11 21:11 ` Jai Dayal
[not found] ` <mailman.25571.1368306670.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-05-11 21:40 ` Jay Belanger
2013-05-11 22:32 ` Jai Dayal
2013-05-11 23:51 ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-05-12 8:30 ` Peter Dyballa
2013-05-12 8:44 ` Hongxu Chen
[not found] ` <mailman.25594.1368348301.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-05-12 19:44 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-05-12 20:00 ` Dan Espen
2013-05-12 20:53 ` Jai Dayal
2013-05-12 21:18 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
[not found] ` <mailman.25612.1368392031.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-05-12 22:40 ` Dan Espen
2013-05-13 1:23 ` Jay Belanger
2013-05-12 20:52 ` Jai Dayal
2013-05-13 5:58 ` Jonathan Groll
[not found] ` <mailman.25577.1368311553.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-05-11 22:41 ` Jay Belanger
2013-05-12 0:04 ` Jai Dayal
2013-05-12 13:46 ` Jonathan Groll
[not found] ` <mailman.25583.1368317085.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-05-12 0:09 ` Jay Belanger
2013-05-12 2:27 ` Dan Espen
2013-05-12 6:32 ` Jai Dayal
[not found] ` <mailman.25590.1368340339.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-05-12 14:07 ` Jay Belanger
2013-05-09 16:17 ` Hongxu Chen
[not found] ` <mailman.25386.1368106748.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-05-09 13:43 ` notbob
2013-05-09 15:57 ` Jai Dayal
2013-05-09 16:53 ` Jay Belanger
[not found] ` <mailman.25331.1368028437.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-05-08 16:51 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-05-08 19:49 ` Bob Proulx
2013-05-09 1:15 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-05-09 2:48 ` Bob Proulx
2013-05-09 7:25 ` Jonathan Groll
2013-05-09 9:08 ` Tamas Papp
2013-05-05 10:14 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-05-06 3:31 ` Jason White
2013-05-06 9:52 ` ken
2013-05-06 9:56 ` Peter Dyballa
[not found] ` <mailman.25227.1367834181.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-05-08 10:22 ` Andrea Venturoli
[not found] ` <mailman.25215.1367811087.855.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2013-05-06 13:13 ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-05-06 15:29 ` Joost Kremers
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