most up-to-date emacs packages for debian testing?

most up-to-date emacs packages for debian testing?

[Tom Roche]

http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gnu-emacs/2013-04/msg00363.html
>> I'm running

>> $ cat /etc/debian_version
>> > wheezy/sid
>> $ emacs-snapshot --version
>> > GNU Emacs 24.2.50.1

http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gnu-emacs/2013-04/msg00367.html
> that that is an old development snapshot, not a release. You are
> likely better off with Emacs 24.2 or 24.3

I prefer to install via APT (vs, e.g., tarballs). I have been using
emacs-snapshot packages from http://emacs.naquadah.org/ :

my sources.list
> deb http://emacs.naquadah.org/ stable/
> deb-src http://emacs.naquadah.org/ stable/

since they're more up-to-date than the main debian packages. I'm
wondering, can I get an even more up-to-date emacs via debian packages
without "going all the way" to sid/unstable?

TIA, Tom Roche <Tom_Roche@pobox.com>

Re: most up-to-date emacs packages for debian testing?

[Bob Proulx]

Tom Roche wrote:
> >> $ cat /etc/debian_version
> >> > wheezy/sid

You are behind.  Please upgrade.  Wheezy is preparing to release.
Your file should say 7.0 now.

  $ cat /etc/debian_version
  7.0

> >> $ emacs-snapshot --version
> >> > GNU Emacs 24.2.50.1
> 
> http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gnu-emacs/2013-04/msg00367.html
> > that that is an old development snapshot, not a release. You are
> > likely better off with Emacs 24.2 or 24.3
> 
> I prefer to install via APT (vs, e.g., tarballs). I have been using
> emacs-snapshot packages from http://emacs.naquadah.org/ :

Emacs 24 was too late for Wheezy.  Testing is very, very, very close
to release as Wheezy according to recent announcements.  After that
Testing will be unfrozen, named Jessie, and Emacs 24 from Unstable
will migrate to it.  If you are patient and wait a couple of weeks
then you should have the latest Emacs 24.3 in Testing.

> my sources.list
> > deb http://emacs.naquadah.org/ stable/
> > deb-src http://emacs.naquadah.org/ stable/
> 
> since they're more up-to-date than the main debian packages.

Emacs 24.3.1 is available in Unstable Sid.  I am typing this message
using it.  I was using Emacs 24.2 from Sid before.  Everything
leapfrogs.  There are no absolutes.

> I'm wondering, can I get an even more up-to-date emacs via debian
> packages without "going all the way" to sid/unstable?

I expect that emacs 24 will be available in Backports at some point.
Requesting it would probably help that to happen sooner.

In the end it always comes down to the fact that someone must provide
those packages.  Perhaps you could ask the emacs.naquadah.org
maintainers to provide an updated package?

Bob

P.S. I have no bugs affecting me in Emacs 23.  But I have one nasty
bug in Emacs 24.3.  So for me 23 is better than 24.  The bug in 24.3
is driving me crazy and I am working through the fix or workaround for
it right now.

Re: most up-to-date emacs packages for debian testing?

[Tom Roche]

http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gnu-emacs/2013-04/msg00376.html
>>> I'm running

>>> $ cat /etc/debian_version
>>> > wheezy/sid
>>> $ emacs-snapshot --version
>>> > GNU Emacs 24.2.50.1

http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gnu-emacs/2013-04/msg00377.html
>> You are behind.  Please upgrade.

I will, but I've gotta finish a particular work item first.

>> I expect that emacs 24 will be available in Backports at some point.
>> Requesting it would probably help that to happen sooner.

Where/how should someone make that request?

>> Perhaps you could ask the emacs.naquadah.org maintainers to provide
>> an updated package?

I was about to do that, then read http://emacs.naquadah.org/ :-) and did

me@it:/etc/apt$ diff -uwB sources.list_20130419 sources.list
... 
> -# for emacs 24 stable: see http://emacs.naquadah.org/
> -deb http://emacs.naquadah.org/ stable/
> -deb-src http://emacs.naquadah.org/ stable/
> +# see http://emacs.naquadah.org/
> +# deb http://emacs.naquadah.org/ stable/
> +# deb-src http://emacs.naquadah.org/ stable/
> +deb http://emacs.naquadah.org/ unstable/
> +deb-src http://emacs.naquadah.org/ unstable/
me@it:~$ sudo aptitude update
...
me@it:~$ sudo aptitude -s install emacs-snapshot
...
me@it:~$ sudo aptitude install emacs-snapshot
...

After some minor fiddling with my init.el and related load-files,
I now have

GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.4.2)
of 2013-04-10 on dex, modified by Debian

:-) your assistance is appreciated, Tom Roche <Tom_Roche@pobox.com>

Re: most up-to-date emacs packages for debian testing?

[Stefan Monnier]

> I expect that emacs 24 will be available in Backports at some point.

I use testing and have simply installed emacs24/unstable.


        Stefan

Re: most up-to-date emacs packages for debian testing?

[Bob Proulx]

Tom Roche wrote:
> >> I expect that emacs 24 will be available in Backports at some point.
> >> Requesting it would probably help that to happen sooner.
> 
> Where/how should someone make that request?

Send an email asking if someone would generate a backport to the
debian-backports@lists.debian.org mailing list.  Here is a web
reference to the area.

  http://backports.debian.org/

You are asking about Wheezy today.  At the moment that is Testing.
But that will release in a couple of weeks and then it will be
Stable and then the Backports area will apply to it.

> >> Perhaps you could ask the emacs.naquadah.org maintainers to provide
> >> an updated package?
> 
> I was about to do that, then read http://emacs.naquadah.org/ :-) and did
> ...
> After some minor fiddling with my init.el and related load-files,
> I now have
> 
> GNU Emacs 24.3.50.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 3.4.2)
> of 2013-04-10 on dex, modified by Debian

There you go!  :-)

Bob