From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Xue Fuqiao Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: About "set bits" Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 22:20:16 +0800 Message-ID: <20130412222016.f8d7eae8bccfaaf64cb03c2f@gmail.com> References: <20130410214627.6ca217f53415c0c6d1837edd@gmail.com> <87a9p44b2i.fsf@zigzag.favinet> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1365776472 2984 80.91.229.3 (12 Apr 2013 14:21:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2013 14:21:12 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 12 16:21:14 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UQeqk-0005Fi-Ay for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 16:21:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58900 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UQeqj-0000C5-NS for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 10:21:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:34330) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UQeqF-0000Bw-5A for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 10:20:41 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UQeqA-00064O-DD for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 10:20:39 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pa0-f45.google.com ([209.85.220.45]:36292) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UQeqA-00064I-6Z for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 10:20:34 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pa0-f45.google.com with SMTP id kl13so1502216pab.4 for ; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 07:20:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references :x-mailer:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=jvXYZwy9u/ztXgr3rQBuKRUEx9n4eBfNKScp4lr+7Mc=; b=IAs7+BftEevE3+YpQP6ip9sp7NBSMv0CsN97k6Y+LqarSs9g3T2pBMZrN/i/mC4LGb W2SxhGqQXJwNZMzXe0+zLVsvmK5qwoIbXqAtOLbRsNVb9bGgOcJMuoptn2D3KAY/3/mV pRaumUH/xRJdhv8SMWPdZjs05+aTqOq5wRSe85b9uc5axfnYcV/JbLvo5n6ZvaOZS1L8 9H5/8/r9asrXWjXyZoV4hQ1WC5ieL1V7yq4OsHMzLm7u9sM+UCjIBTQDahciMMKszJ+A GSwxFXjPB6gVsYHxKCdr3OsuWNrxLgM/g2Fya1SWez6Ik3RR9EwAls5K/Zd/PYn3Up3B acAA== X-Received: by 10.66.9.7 with SMTP id v7mr15813749paa.216.1365776433029; Fri, 12 Apr 2013 07:20:33 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from localhost.localdomain ([123.114.127.26]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t16sm8737516pbs.32.2013.04.12.07.20.26 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 12 Apr 2013 07:20:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87a9p44b2i.fsf@zigzag.favinet> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.3.0 (GTK+ 2.24.16; x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 209.85.220.45 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:90121 Archived-At: On Fri, 12 Apr 2013 06:39:17 +0200 Thien-Thi Nguyen wrote: > () Barry Margolin > () Thu, 11 Apr 2013 11:19:54 -0400 > > True, these phrases can be ambiguous. But often the context and > examples help quite a bit in figuring out the intent. In this case, > there were a couple of examples; "bits" tells you to think in binary, > and if you examined the binary values of the examples it should > quickly become apparent what was meant. > > Yes, i think if OP were to try more stuff in *scratch*, such questions > could be avoided. Agreed. Although I prefer *ielm*. > In this case, i wrote examples that (to me) seem easy to inspect and > mentally verify, so that *scratch* is not even necessary. But I'm not familiar with binary files and binary code, I don't where to start. > Let's hope people will step forward and improve the docs over time.) That's true. Although my English isn't very good, I'd be glad to improve/refine the documentation for Emacs, like proof-reading the manuals and adding documentation about some packages/features that aren't mentioned in the manuals. -- Xue Fuqiao http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/