From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Barry Warsaw Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On the subject of Git, Bazaar, and the future of Emacs development Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2013 20:26:13 -0400 Organization: Damn Crazy Followers of the Horn Message-ID: <20130401202613.0b4201e3@anarchist> References: <87hajxqlly.fsf@yandex.ru> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=PGP-SHA256; boundary="Sig_/bd6c6T.zgg_Ez7gCzERwEAg"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1364862393 5680 80.91.229.3 (2 Apr 2013 00:26:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2013 00:26:33 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 02 02:27:00 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UMp40-0005C6-Jb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 02 Apr 2013 02:27:00 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53775 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UMp3c-0002Np-1F for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 20:26:36 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:43046) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UMp3X-0002NT-Od for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 20:26:33 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UMp3V-0001mc-CC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 20:26:31 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:34734) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UMp3V-0001mH-5O for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Apr 2013 20:26:29 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UMp3q-00058N-KX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Apr 2013 02:26:50 +0200 Original-Received: from mail.wooz.org ([216.15.33.194]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 02 Apr 2013 02:26:50 +0200 Original-Received: from barry by mail.wooz.org with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 02 Apr 2013 02:26:50 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 50 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: mail.wooz.org X-Newsreader: Claws Mail 3.8.1 (GTK+ 2.24.17; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:158527 Archived-At: --Sig_/bd6c6T.zgg_Ez7gCzERwEAg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mar 27, 2013, at 01:15 PM, Richard Stallman wrote: >The point is, I am trying to determine whether Bzr is effectively >maintained or not. I'd rather get a Yes answer than a No answer. Given that Bazaar is GPL v2 and the contributor agreement is not that onero= us IMHO (e.g. you retain copyright to your contributed changes), what's stoppi= ng the user community from stepping up to help to maintain it, just like any other free software? If it's lack of interest, then okay, that happens with projects all the tim= e. If it's something else, then please identify, as it may be possible to fix organizational or other issues to make it easier for folks to contribute to the project and move it along, regardless of Canonical's sponsorship. Cheers, -Barry --Sig_/bd6c6T.zgg_Ez7gCzERwEAg Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJRWiWlAAoJEBJutWOnSwa/I2cP/Rlumeg8yyoMLhs7u9Axe8Sa iV3FqIdNcFEtyogSd4iaY8IPtb7c+irGW8xDiCLZB9cQa/CJBMlWINCHpIsijx3u zNMQpsZKcUMDNAN/goD/vXrGUUYUIGmVPHNFL5k3KknLQDhj5geGWzqK5qGIXi// PdjfzAEA6hU+SrFMzwIYELkWaNflQq6VCb8KTFTdvWNk9o8Knw4MecZQIFwVjS2s RJPbij+c1tmkwPI8+LzGGI/ul0o+E/mzOE0EN5lL+/qPV6qUh8UNYzBw/onvnifk lWkEaV7ZfV78BxLVl8qWAdDMWjYcrnUwxufDRjAt82sHEQGgfI5rpJzwPy9sp8Eb OrwqaLDvHcaZi94TPkDf+L8g1aMhvRWax0vwLEGEu46h4qmqBbmI9i2yXC2ECmYj QIjcwuYer4c5Ovz+Z5nwQHXr3fNPjNtPWs4lV4YyoQd7iQqe0/jmWRzf5MrgLAoQ pfz/qhTUK24XQuM2NQIOhvKZJuZRoMh9dfbbgRGYDDQR9316niy4m6B6J9uMHU2O ZF0Gv08tXx1BhUZghqWP7jwq8nPRMlSoJ9bpzU7oMi9OWKhmFIDYrOQLviGRzE5l yDfPk7bkwLJeNr83UCIHJfERMEqdUlvMvjhYxFUF4jKkMiJAqx+AFmALNvZHiet0 +9W+TvpdCgI7oA1oI+tq =fnCO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/bd6c6T.zgg_Ez7gCzERwEAg--