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From: Jorgen Schaefer <forcer@forcix.cx>
To: David Engster <deng@randomsample.de>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: A unified project root interface
Date: Sun, 17 Mar 2013 19:18:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130317191817.764a44f5@forcix.kollektiv-hamburg.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87y5dmsz5u.fsf@engster.org>

On Sun, 17 Mar 2013 18:40:13 +0100
David Engster <deng@randomsample.de> wrote:

> > The problem I raised in this thread is that too many packages write
> > their own solution because using any of the possible standard
> > solutions is too cumbersome. Saying "there is a cumbersome standard
> > solution" does not solve the problem.
> 
> I do not say that.

Great. I'm glad I misunderstood, and thank you for correcting me.

> To hopefully prove my point, I've hacked together a small EDE project
> for detecting files under git/hg/bzr version control, very similar to
> how you do it in your project.el (I've dropped the CVS/.svn detection
> for the moment).

> [...]

> and load some file under a git/hg/bzr versioned directory. There is an
> example function `my-get-project-root' to print the project's root.

Opening a file in a subdirectory of a repository root does not
associate it with a project. I suspect this is a bug in this "proof of
concept" implementation more so than a conceptual problem, though :-)

Thank you for providing an example implementation.

> Just to be clear: I do *not* expect that users write this stuff;
> instead, Emacs should provide projects like this as defaults.

If I understand this right, this looks good.

I'm a bit unsure about requiring EDE, CEDET, etc. for this - it's not
unlikely that people will go "meh" and not use it because of that. (I'm
sorry to say so, but the complexity of CEDET is a recurring theme on the
Emacs IRC channel.)

So in the end, what we need for trivial implementation:

- Provide a default "simple project" that auto-detects the root via
  VCS markers

- Define a (project-root) that simply returns (and
  ede-object-root-project (ede-project-root-directory
  ede-object-root-project))

- Define a (project-set-root DIR) that does (oset this :file DIR) for
  the current project. If there is no current project, this should
  create a "simple project" for that directory so other uses of
  (project-root) will find it.

- Ask authors of extensions to use (ede-minor-mode 1) in their mode
  function and simply use that function in their modes.

Does this sound sensible?

Regards,
	-- Jorgen



  reply	other threads:[~2013-03-17 18:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-03-09 16:44 A unified project root interface Jorgen Schaefer
2013-03-09 17:12 ` Fabian Ezequiel Gallina
2013-03-10  5:38 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-03-10 10:06   ` Jorgen Schaefer
2013-03-11 18:57   ` Lluís
2013-03-12 23:28     ` Eric M. Ludlam
2013-03-12 23:42       ` Jorgen Schaefer
2013-03-13  2:02         ` Eric M. Ludlam
2013-03-13 18:03       ` David Engster
2013-03-13 19:11         ` Sudish Joseph
2013-03-16  0:47         ` Eric M. Ludlam
2013-03-16 14:18           ` David Engster
2013-03-16 15:02             ` Jorgen Schaefer
2013-03-16 22:27               ` Phil Hagelberg
2013-03-16 22:59               ` David Engster
2013-03-16 23:16                 ` Jorgen Schaefer
2013-03-17 17:40                   ` David Engster
2013-03-17 18:18                     ` Jorgen Schaefer [this message]
2013-03-18 22:50                       ` David Engster
2013-03-19  1:57                         ` John Yates
2013-03-19  7:18                           ` David Engster
2013-03-19 12:23                             ` Eric M. Ludlam
2013-03-19 13:06                             ` Stefan Monnier
2013-03-19 19:09                               ` David Engster
2013-03-20  3:21                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-03-20  4:48                                   ` Leo Liu
2013-03-20  7:04                                     ` joakim
2013-03-20  7:05                                     ` David Engster
2013-03-20  7:13                                   ` David Engster
2013-03-20 12:57                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2013-03-20 16:14                                       ` Davis Herring
2013-03-20 17:41                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2013-03-20 17:48                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2013-03-20 18:20                                         ` Bruce Korb
2013-03-20 22:14                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-03-20 16:34                                       ` David Engster
2013-03-20 17:47                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2013-03-21  0:55                                           ` Eric M. Ludlam
2013-03-21  3:27                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2013-03-21  4:07                                               ` Eric M. Ludlam
2013-03-21 14:33                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-03-22  2:12                                                 ` Eric M. Ludlam
2013-03-23 11:04                                                   ` EIEIO split (was: A unified project root interface) David Engster
2013-03-21 16:32                                             ` A unified project root interface David Engster
2013-03-22  0:47                                               ` Eric M. Ludlam
2013-03-22 20:30                                                 ` David Engster
2013-03-23 17:10                                                   ` Eric M. Ludlam
2013-03-23 17:26                                                     ` Jorgen Schaefer
2013-03-23 18:02                                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-03-23 20:51                                                         ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
2013-03-24  4:25                                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-03-24 10:13                                                             ` Jorgen Schaefer
2013-04-06 13:25                                                               ` Jorgen Schaefer
2013-04-06 17:13                                                                 ` Eric M. Ludlam
2013-04-08 19:03                                                                   ` David Engster
2013-12-31 20:12                                                               ` Daniel Colascione
2013-03-20 17:49                                         ` Jorgen Schaefer
2013-03-19  7:33                         ` Jorgen Schaefer
2013-03-17  8:08                 ` joakim
2013-03-12 15:34   ` Sudish Joseph
2013-03-12 16:51     ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-03-12 18:23   ` Ted Zlatanov

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