From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Xue Fuqiao Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: please review bug #13141 Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 20:02:26 +0800 Organization: The Church of Emacs Message-ID: <20130120200226.e67f106a5103898511e901dd@gmail.com> References: <415AF94149E240B7BCB28128E45D3135@us.oracle.com> <20130119232015.GA517@acm.acm> <20130120105003.GA3091@acm.acm> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1358683360 15934 80.91.229.3 (20 Jan 2013 12:02:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 12:02:40 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 13141@debbugs.gnu.org, Drew Adams , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Alan Mackenzie Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 20 13:02:58 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Twtbz-0002Jv-Ll for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 13:02:55 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45084 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Twtbi-0006cK-Mq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 07:02:38 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:57345) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Twtbf-0006cF-Hb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 07:02:36 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Twtbe-0000u8-4V for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 07:02:35 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-pb0-f42.google.com ([209.85.160.42]:37748) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Twtbd-0000u1-UU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 07:02:34 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-pb0-f42.google.com with SMTP id rp2so2818649pbb.15 for ; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 04:02:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:organization:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=eaOOBN/pifwYa+9i6O7lCgdTqqXVEeZaA9FqxOOG56s=; b=Zsjre/DTQ5p7odu4su4SiYcWfH9hB4ZDk1FR8eymMGlb/NFs8m0PCbpN3rRS2Y3RbU uG1JRJO4n+aJMnU7GsHaYsHocxkX2lylVsx/IYJ+wCHKztRccNCSWTl3zdA1fwCLwl/H wmdPc3JE9bM+3dBJ53LdmuGxxvz+y+biTuhvEaB5F1XLQvRhM31OSbLPAWwU5cbHqto4 xcyt4usqSEIkzRgae6WaBn+1ZtNOzlISSNJFH9Ltwh5OemD6x9a7VFzHAH5bwgFzdAai XTlcNUxyVkzGPF4YsapKSPup7V0YYH+/4jz1pIuTPGxtXrVXHPe3b0M8ky9S5Mn+eWO0 Jh+w== X-Received: by 10.68.244.169 with SMTP id xh9mr21515292pbc.52.1358683353178; Sun, 20 Jan 2013 04:02:33 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from Emacs ([124.117.12.115]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id m3sm7183334pav.4.2013.01.20.04.02.29 (version=TLSv1.1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 20 Jan 2013 04:02:32 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20130120105003.GA3091@acm.acm> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.2.0 (GTK+ 2.24.13; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 209.85.160.42 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:156497 Archived-At: On Sun, 20 Jan 2013 10:50:03 +0000 Alan Mackenzie wrote: > I've not seen the patch, but it is surely either a set of configuration > settings or a sequence of questions to be answered each time a new bug > report is done. The former doesn't seem useful, since the useful info to > include will vary by bug report, not by bug submitter. The latter would > be a burden on the bug reporter, and surely could come to be an > annoyance. I haven't seen the patch, either. As for the latter, I think `map-y-or-n-p' is a good choice, `!' in `query-replace-map' can act on all following objects. > I > would think there are few Emacs users without .emacses, if for nothing > more than customize-* settings. I ever used Emacs without .emacs (except for custmize-* settings) for a long time, because: 1. I didn't know when to use `setq' and when to use `setq-default'; 2. I wanted to add a load-path, but I didn't know what function I should use (`push' or `add-to-list'); 3. I didn't know when to use `boundp', `fboundp' or `featurep'; 4. I didn't know what feature to `require'; 5. I didn't know the differences between `global-set-key' and `define-key'; And many other reasons. I think I'm not the only one who met these problems. -- Best regards, Xue Fuqiao. http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/XueFuqiao