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From: Harald Hanche-Olsen <hanche@math.ntnu.no>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: bug#13141: please review bug #13141
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2013 20:46:29 +0100 (CET)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130120.204629.1199903806666685722.hanche@math.ntnu.no> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87mww45nkh.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp>

["Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org> (2013-01-20 07:19:10 UTC)]

> Experienced developers know that what experienced users "know" often
> enough just ain't so.
> 
> The only case where users are in a good position to decide is about
> privacy-sensitive information that might be in traces or keystroke
> logs, etc.

I admit to being one of those who routinely deletes much of the noise
before submitting a bug report. But then, whenever possible, I try to
figure out a way to reproduce the bug starting from emacs -Q. In which
case Major and minor modes, recent input, and recent messages are
truly irrelevant, and so I delete them before submitting the bug
report. (An extreme case is #11358, where I have deleted *all* the
predetermined info.) In any case, I hardly ever report a bug
immediately after encountering it. I am usually too busy trying to get
stuff done, so I finish that first, then investigate the bug,
typically in a separate emacs instance, and then submit a bug report.
In which case I am quite confident that recent input and messages are
beside the point, so I delete them. But perhaps I am very unusual as
bug reporters go.

In any case, I don't really see the need for more options. If I can
delete irrelevant parts from the bug reports, so can anybody else.
I don't think we need to make it any easier than it already is,
especially as it appears some people are already deleting more than
they should.

But perhaps they should be told, somehow, to review recent input and
messages for private content that they may not wish to reveal to the
world.

- Harald



  reply	other threads:[~2013-01-20 19:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-12-11 16:00 bug#13141: 24.3.50; Be able to customize the info included by default for `report-emacs-bug' Drew Adams
2012-12-11 16:12 ` Dani Moncayo
2012-12-11 16:18   ` Drew Adams
2012-12-11 16:24     ` Dani Moncayo
2012-12-11 16:28       ` Drew Adams
2012-12-11 19:13   ` Jambunathan K
2012-12-11 19:19     ` Glenn Morris
2012-12-11 19:34       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-01-20  9:45         ` bug#13141: 24.3.50; Be able to customize the info included by default for`report-emacs-bug' Drew Adams
2013-01-21  1:22           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-01-21  1:35             ` Drew Adams
2013-01-21  1:54               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-01-21  2:09                 ` Drew Adams
2012-12-11 19:27     ` bug#13141: 24.3.50; Be able to customize the info included by default for `report-emacs-bug' Drew Adams
2012-12-11 16:29 ` Stefan Monnier
2012-12-11 16:37   ` Drew Adams
2012-12-11 19:45 ` Glenn Morris
2012-12-11 19:59   ` bug#13141: [PATCH]: bug#13141: 24.3.50; Be able to customize the info included by default for`report-emacs-bug' Drew Adams
2013-01-19 23:10 ` bug#13141: please review bug #13141 Drew Adams
2013-01-20  0:35   ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-01-20  0:54     ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-01-20  7:19       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-01-20  7:19       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-01-20 19:46         ` Harald Hanche-Olsen [this message]
2013-01-20  0:54     ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-01-20  1:03     ` Drew Adams
2013-01-20  1:03     ` Drew Adams
2013-01-20  0:35   ` Dmitry Gutov
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2013-01-19 23:10 Drew Adams
2013-01-19 23:20 ` bug#13141: " Alan Mackenzie
2013-01-19 23:20 ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-01-19 23:59   ` bug#13141: " Drew Adams
2013-01-19 23:59   ` Drew Adams
2013-01-20  0:12     ` bug#13141: " Xue Fuqiao
2013-01-20  7:16     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-01-20  7:16     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-01-20 10:33       ` bug#13141: " Xue Fuqiao
2013-01-20 17:08       ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-01-20 18:41       ` Richard Stallman
2013-01-21  1:03         ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-01-21  3:02           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-01-21  3:26           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-01-21  1:03         ` Dmitry Gutov
2013-01-21  2:39         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-01-20 10:50     ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-01-20 10:50     ` Alan Mackenzie
2013-01-20 12:02       ` bug#13141: " Xue Fuqiao
2013-01-20 17:40       ` Drew Adams
2013-01-21  4:24         ` bug#13141: " Drew Adams
2013-01-20 17:40       ` Drew Adams
2013-01-19 23:21 ` Drew Adams

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