About `mail-fcc'

About `mail-fcc'

[Xue Fuqiao]

In (info "(emacs) Header Editing"):
  If the field in question does not exist, the command creates one (the exception is `mail-fcc', which creates a new field each time).

What does the `mail-fcc' mean here?  I cannot find a symbol whose name is `mail-fcc'.
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Re: About `mail-fcc'

[Peter Dyballa]

Am 10.01.2013 um 14:38 schrieb Xue Fuqiao:

> In (info "(emacs) Header Editing"):
>  If the field in question does not exist, the command creates one (the exception is `mail-fcc', which creates a new field each time).
> 
> What does the `mail-fcc' mean here?  I cannot find a symbol whose name is `mail-fcc'.
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> Best regards, Xue Fuqiao.
> http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/XueFuqiao
> 

Does this explain? http://searchnetworking.techtarget.com/definition/Fcc

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Re: About `mail-fcc'

[Xue Fuqiao]

On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 16:05:07 +0100
Peter Dyballa <Peter_Dyballa@Web.DE> wrote:

> Does this explain? http://searchnetworking.techtarget.com/definition/Fcc

Thanks for your answer.  But I know what `FCC' means(in fact, I often use it), it is explained in (info "(emacs) Mail Headers").  I don't know what `mail-fcc' means.
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Re: About `mail-fcc'

[Peter Dyballa]

Am 10.01.2013 um 23:12 schrieb Xue Fuqiao:

> 
>> Does this explain? http://searchnetworking.techtarget.com/definition/Fcc
> 
> Thanks for your answer.  But I know what `FCC' means(in fact, I often use it), it is explained in (info "(emacs) Mail Headers").  I don't know what `mail-fcc' means.
> -- 
> Best regards, Xue Fuqiao.
> http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/XueFuqiao


Could it be a somehow "virtual" or immaterial full carbon copy, because an eMail does not exist in a perceivable material form and therefore its full "carbon" copy cannot exist as this physical and material entity, so one needs a vehicle to transport the idea of a full carbon copy, which we can name `mail-fcc'?

Let's call it my idea! I did not read the manual. (And I don't intend to do so since I do not intend to send eMails with GNU Emacs.)

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Re: About `mail-fcc'

[Xue Fuqiao]

On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 23:33:04 +0100
Peter Dyballa <Peter_Dyballa@Web.DE> wrote:

> Could it be a somehow "virtual" or immaterial full carbon copy, because an eMail does not exist in a perceivable material form and therefore its full "carbon" copy cannot exist as this physical and material entity, so one needs a vehicle to transport the idea of a full carbon copy, which we can name `mail-fcc'?
> 
> Let's call it my idea! I did not read the manual. (And I don't intend to do so since I do not intend to send eMails with GNU Emacs.)

I can't agree with you, sorry.  As far as I'm concerned, it should be a command, but I couldn't find this command.  I  only found `message-goto-fcc', but it doesn't create a new field each time.
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Re: About `mail-fcc'

[Eli Zaretskii]

> Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 06:12:22 +0800
> From: Xue Fuqiao <xfq.free@gmail.com>
> Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> 
> On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 16:05:07 +0100
> Peter Dyballa <Peter_Dyballa@Web.DE> wrote:
> 
> > Does this explain? http://searchnetworking.techtarget.com/definition/Fcc
> 
> Thanks for your answer.  But I know what `FCC' means(in fact, I often use it), it is explained in (info "(emacs) Mail Headers").  I don't know what `mail-fcc' means.

It means the Mail Mode command to go to (or, rather, create a new) FCC
header.  Type these commands and read there:

    M-x mail-mode RET
    C-h f mail-fcc RET

The mistake in the manual is that it uses 'mail-fcc', which is a
command from mail-mode, while the description above that was rewritten
to be based on message-mode, whose equivalent command is
'message-goto-to-fcc'.  (Also, there's an incompatibility between
these two modes in key bindings: in mail-mode, 'mail-fcc' is bound to
'C-c C-f C-f' while in message-mode, 'message-goto-to-fcc' is bound to
'C-c C-f C-w'.)

Re: About `mail-fcc'

[Eli Zaretskii]

> Date: Fri, 11 Jan 2013 06:45:25 +0800
> From: Xue Fuqiao <xfq.free@gmail.com>
> Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> 
> I can't agree with you, sorry.  As far as I'm concerned, it should
> be a command, but I couldn't find this command.

It's in Mail Mode.

> I  only found `message-goto-fcc', but it doesn't create a new field each time.

Another incompatibility between Mail Mode and Message Mode.  IMO, the
behavior of Mail Mode is correct, and that of Message Mode is a subtle
bug.

Re: About `mail-fcc'

[Xue Fuqiao]

Sorry, I ignored the prefix `mail'.

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