From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Xue Fuqiao Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Unuseful keybindings Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 21:40:58 +0800 Organization: The Church of Emacs Message-ID: <20121218214058.ca01a81303acd865af28f54a@gmail.com> References: <87sj73qzvl.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1355838070 24075 80.91.229.3 (18 Dec 2012 13:41:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2012 13:41:10 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Thierry Volpiatto Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 18 14:41:24 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TkxQB-0008Ls-MZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 14:41:23 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44236 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TkxPy-0001ms-9p for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 08:41:10 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:58792) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TkxPv-0001mN-7u for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 08:41:08 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TkxPt-0008L8-Pc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 08:41:07 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-da0-f47.google.com ([209.85.210.47]:56482) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TkxPt-0008L4-Js for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 08:41:05 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-da0-f47.google.com with SMTP id s35so342128dak.34 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 05:41:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=x-received:date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:organization:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=Yxt+6TgrTYqxdi+7iAKffGrEw/SSgV/A7/m8QwHeUZ8=; b=QUZIVZVPXN+lMe9suAn0rlc+WMQM4lfUUvyGGgrXIGRRQcVod6TBXE17G/T96EFRC3 jK3SWq+pU43zSFxYG+5b3zda4tFLfmK0MY9oN0ZFFQmdkrXeSuaKS/pXDGMWTtOe0gy9 42zsMWlOTCGMhBe9FHt96bvKU5ROVXIMVMerRjLQHp7eiHis2uptrjA00oBQmeNAfHqc /0nm5zKZVR37xp493PsvJJ0srEcoT0IpkN0FKfyFI3gCOrYj+FVilyG3aKQqjDR8S1Hm EFO7dGuavN901z0noILb4ptqYithJD3UmvhBW5FHM8tjVJyqB09ErLsdukKT2fYERPIi ltgg== X-Received: by 10.68.192.97 with SMTP id hf1mr6958610pbc.106.1355838064761; Tue, 18 Dec 2012 05:41:04 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from Emacs ([61.148.243.18]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id rk9sm1191879pbc.24.2012.12.18.05.41.01 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 18 Dec 2012 05:41:04 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87sj73qzvl.fsf@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.2.0 (GTK+ 2.24.13; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 209.85.210.47 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:155648 Archived-At: On Tue, 18 Dec 2012 14:00:14 +0100 Thierry Volpiatto wrote: > These commands (and also C-z since ages) IMHO, are unuseful as modern > windows managers are able to handle this. > e.g in xfce: > M- and M- What about MS Windows? And modern OS also have input method, calendar, shell(especially in Unix-like systems), and Tetris. But they are also in Emacs. -- Best regards, Xue Fuqiao. http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/XueFuqiao