From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Xue Fuqiao Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: is requiring cl bad? Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 18:14:44 +0800 Organization: The Church of Emacs Message-ID: <20121216181444.f9963d105a193f14f78e6f83@gmail.com> References: <874njm2vlx.fsf@kanis.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1355652896 24059 80.91.229.3 (16 Dec 2012 10:14:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 10:14:56 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs devel To: Ivan Kanis Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Dec 16 11:15:10 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TkBFV-0000Ly-PP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 11:15:09 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37096 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TkBFI-0005cQ-BX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 05:14:56 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:42326) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TkBFG-0005cL-CM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 05:14:55 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TkBFF-0000XS-4M for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 05:14:54 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-da0-f41.google.com ([209.85.210.41]:39581) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TkBFE-0000XG-UD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 05:14:53 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-da0-f41.google.com with SMTP id e20so2048335dak.0 for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 02:14:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references :organization:x-mailer:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=qMWPXWycYAfHBI/rzqVmULo2Mp3NKkxRqiNngbj0Gcc=; b=KdyLF96TSRo8RvTOy+AfqX3rP2ns3hf+3D3TGTd06CgfR8YhUYG6GBGh/RmIIJPmEp JmG56VzLm5OTInCu72XExkcA1xa5THXgHk/bZNcYCT2x2/TFcGWXfoXxDe6QaRNuPvOE xWGmXMHpxTfLeg0/7Sj+zbK1g3Lz9bBRjDcmrG7NHFM+C6bcnBkkTr48aYQs3C5b2wpb cqol5bp2DL1XXuqDERJyz0nNx+XtNxpqJOKIG91/cMW+EcLV5IchR3tKzbENkXZdudhe NlrpDgLABag/klRfLt5u0ApVThOlKjn0T1lxtg2Fxlwe8df7a7NqZJqnGzo7RZ0POh2l TldQ== Original-Received: by 10.66.75.100 with SMTP id b4mr32417112paw.0.1355652891718; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 02:14:51 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from Emacs ([123.114.121.167]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id x6sm6507466pav.29.2012.12.16.02.14.48 (version=SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Sun, 16 Dec 2012 02:14:51 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <874njm2vlx.fsf@kanis.fr> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.2.0 (GTK+ 2.24.13; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 209.85.210.41 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:155597 Archived-At: On Sun, 16 Dec 2012 10:29:30 +0100 Ivan Kanis wrote: > I was under the impression that requiring cl was bad (TM). I can't > remember why. Is it still so? You can see these pages: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2003-08/msg00436.html http://www.gnu.org/gnu/rms-lisp.html http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2007-09/msg01472.html BTW, what does "TM" mean(English is not my native language)? -- Best regards, Xue Fuqiao. http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/XueFuqiao