From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bob Proulx Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: visual line mode Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2012 19:56:40 -0600 Message-ID: <20121014015640.GA27692@dismay.proulx.com> References: <1350038115945-266940.post@n5.nabble.com> <7D26BCC2-3CEA-4109-878F-FEB13D2EED2B@Web.DE> <1350038885303-266943.post@n5.nabble.com> <395879E8-FD2F-4487-850D-0B2CECE37DF5@Web.DE> <83wqyv7rao.fsf@gnu.org> <7B153E83-F6E8-48ED-A6DF-905FB274C351@Web.DE> <83k3uv7ixg.fsf@gnu.org> <83bog67r96.fsf@gnu.org> <3F6B0303-632C-45F1-BC70-D230655BC92F@Web.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1350179808 30133 80.91.229.3 (14 Oct 2012 01:56:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2012 01:56:48 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 14 03:56:56 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TNDRm-0007bY-QM for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 14 Oct 2012 03:56:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33400 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TNDRg-0004nl-9W for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 21:56:48 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:49948) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TNDRb-0004nb-EL for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 21:56:44 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TNDRa-0005Rs-MF for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 21:56:43 -0400 Original-Received: from joseki.proulx.com ([216.17.153.58]:40559) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TNDRa-0005Ri-F8 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 21:56:42 -0400 Original-Received: from dismay.proulx.com (dismay.proulx.com [172.27.61.4]) by joseki.proulx.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D53E1211DF for ; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 19:56:40 -0600 (MDT) Original-Received: by dismay.proulx.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 99E5DD20E1B; Sat, 13 Oct 2012 19:56:40 -0600 (MDT) Mail-Followup-To: Bob Proulx , help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3F6B0303-632C-45F1-BC70-D230655BC92F@Web.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 216.17.153.58 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:87255 Archived-At: Peter Dyballa wrote: > While trying to find this or that recipe you requested, I found that effect: > ... I believe that effect is due to the basic incompatibility of tabs and visual-line-mode. Trying to position the cursor on any of the screen whitespace of a tab expansion means that the cursor will be displayed on the beginning of the tab whitespace. In the proposed example this causes the cursor to back up into the next line above skipping the actual visual line. And looks crazy. If the line has tabs expanded then the case is avoided. I think. At least for that case. BTW add me to the list of people who does not like and cannot stand visual-line-mode. I understand it. I don't like it. It makes a terrible default. Bob