From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Harald Hanche-Olsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#12441: Acknowledgement (24.2.50; emacs-bzr-version is not reliable) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 19:02:59 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <20120914.190259.1021878789905429001.hanche@math.ntnu.no> References: <20120914.140514.1206889292717438125.hanche@math.ntnu.no> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1347642204 26697 80.91.229.3 (14 Sep 2012 17:03:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 17:03:24 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 12441@debbugs.gnu.org To: rgm@gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 14 19:03:24 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TCZIa-0007SP-JC for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 19:03:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54777 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TCZIW-0000sk-PB for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 13:03:20 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:43805) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TCZIQ-0000sH-GY for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 13:03:18 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TCZIG-0000Br-32 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 13:03:14 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:52759) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TCZIF-0000Bn-Vc for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 13:03:04 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TCZJB-0006jp-LK for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 13:04:01 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Harald Hanche-Olsen Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2012 17:04:01 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 12441 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: wontfix Original-Received: via spool by 12441-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B12441.134764224025892 (code B ref 12441); Fri, 14 Sep 2012 17:04:01 +0000 Original-Received: (at 12441) by debbugs.gnu.org; 14 Sep 2012 17:04:00 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34072 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TCZJA-0006jZ-Bu for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 13:04:00 -0400 Original-Received: from hylle01.itea.ntnu.no ([129.241.56.100]:51135) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TCZJ7-0006jQ-Aw for 12441@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 13:03:58 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hylle01.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13992322033 for <12441@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 19:02:57 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at hylle01.itea.ntnu.no Original-Received: from anne.math.ntnu.no (anne.math.ntnu.no [129.241.15.150]) by hylle01.itea.ntnu.no (Postfix) with SMTP id 9239932202D for <12441@debbugs.gnu.org>; Fri, 14 Sep 2012 19:02:56 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: (qmail 17156 invoked from network); 14 Sep 2012 17:02:56 -0000 Original-Received: from gauss.math.ntnu.no (HELO localhost) (hanche@129.241.15.58) by anne.math.ntnu.no with ESMTPA; 14 Sep 2012 17:02:56 -0000 In-Reply-To: X-URL: http://www.math.ntnu.no/~hanche/ X-Mailer: Mew version 6.5 on Emacs 24.1.50 / Mule 6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:64301 Archived-At: [Glenn Morris (2012-09-14 16:16:20 UTC)] > Harald Hanche-Olsen wrote: > > No, that works fine. It also takes exactly the same time to checkout and > produces a directory with exactly the same size (assuming a shared > repository) as the lightweight case. So I'd suggest forgetting about > lightweight checkouts. Hmm, I thought I had done the experiment and found differently. But redoing it, I see that you are indeed right. > I'd say what you're doing is outside the simple uses cases that > emacs-bzr-version (which is really just a minor convenience for bug > reports) is for. You obviously know what revision you are using since > you specified it manually. Yeah, but there is a risk of getting confused while bisecting looking for the revision that introduced a certain bug. > It would perhaps be better if we returned nil rather the wrong answer in > your case, but I see no way even to do that. In emacs-bzr-get-version, in version.el, there seems to be a special branch in the cond dealing with lightweight checkouts. Maybe you could just remove that branch? It will only work, and unreliably to boot, with a lightweight checkout from a local branch. > Which is a long-winded way of saying this gets a "wontfix" from me. I can live with that, if you don't think my suggestion above is good. - Harald