From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alan Mackenzie Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: BEGIN_SRC..END_SRC Date: Sun, 6 May 2012 14:33:13 +0000 Message-ID: <20120506143313.GC4026@acm.acm> References: <871umzrvfw.fsf@gmail.com> <87wr4rqg6g.fsf@gmail.com> <83d36j59gv.fsf@gnu.org> <87r4uz58e3.fsf@sec.modprobe.de> <83aa1n57p4.fsf@gnu.org> <5D17181ED92C4552AE8D4404DD035CA0@us.oracle.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1336314937 18869 80.91.229.3 (6 May 2012 14:35:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 6 May 2012 14:35:37 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Lennart Borgman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun May 06 16:35:36 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SR2Yg-0002u6-25 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 06 May 2012 16:35:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43815 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SR2Yf-0000S0-Eh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 06 May 2012 10:35:33 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:46756) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SR2YZ-0000Bb-Bc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 May 2012 10:35:30 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SR2YX-0002h6-Jj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 May 2012 10:35:26 -0400 Original-Received: from colin.muc.de ([193.149.48.1]:32948 helo=mail.muc.de) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SR2YX-0002gu-9R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 06 May 2012 10:35:25 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 35895 invoked by uid 3782); 6 May 2012 14:35:22 -0000 Original-Received: from acm.muc.de (pD951A1CF.dip.t-dialin.net [217.81.161.207]) by colin.muc.de (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Sun, 06 May 2012 16:35:20 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail 4465 invoked by uid 1000); 6 May 2012 14:33:13 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.1.12 (Macallan) X-Primary-Address: acm@muc.de X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 193.149.48.1 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:150321 Archived-At: Hi, Lennart. On Sun, May 06, 2012 at 04:18:03PM +0200, Lennart Borgman wrote: > On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 4:15 PM, Ted Zlatanov wrote: > > On Sat, 5 May 2012 07:35:29 -0700 "Drew Adams" wrote: > > DA> We discourage the use of HTML messages in GNU mailing lists.  But then > > DA> Gnus/Org/Emacs goes and rolls its own simulacrum?  And then everyone who is not > > DA> using Emacs for mail has the obligatory privilege of seeing the > > DA> markup? > > Yup. > Free software is dependent on standard, or?? > > DA> (Note: I would have no problem with the GNU mailing lists NOT discouraging HTML > > DA> messages.  My point is that we should not (a) discourage HTML and then (b) bring > > DA> in some artisanal, Emacs-specific markup through the back door.  HTML and XML at > > DA> least provide (more or less) standard markup that is supported by many clients.) > > Nope. > Which commonly used mail clients (outside of Emacs) does not support html today? mutt. At least, not without dreary configuration. I'm all for keeping HTML strictly out of GNU list messages. -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).