From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Harald Hanche-Olsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#11359: 24.1.50; Difficulty using report-emacs-bug with mew Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 20:42:54 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <20120427.204254.1955872276606063457.hanche@math.ntnu.no> References: <20120427.200100.1739016347250312474.hanche@math.ntnu.no> <8u62clghri.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1335554690 21631 80.91.229.3 (27 Apr 2012 19:24:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 19:24:50 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 11359@debbugs.gnu.org To: rgm@gnu.org Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 27 21:24:49 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SNqmd-0002oL-QC for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 21:24:47 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60525 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SNqmd-0000cx-3b for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 15:24:47 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:60854) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SNqma-0000cq-2y for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 15:24:45 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SNq97-0002BS-Qa for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:44:18 -0400 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:54677) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SNq97-0002B8-J8 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:43:57 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SNqAA-0002Pv-H9 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:45:02 -0400 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: Harald Hanche-Olsen Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 18:45:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 11359 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 11359-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B11359.13355522459214 (code B ref 11359); Fri, 27 Apr 2012 18:45:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 11359) by debbugs.gnu.org; 27 Apr 2012 18:44:05 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55711 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SNq9E-0002OZ-87 for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:44:04 -0400 Original-Received: from anne.math.ntnu.no ([129.241.15.150]:65015) by debbugs.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1SNq9C-0002O3-52 for 11359@debbugs.gnu.org; Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:44:03 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 22505 invoked from network); 27 Apr 2012 18:42:54 -0000 Original-Received: from gauss.math.ntnu.no (HELO localhost) (hanche@129.241.15.58) by anne.math.ntnu.no with ESMTPA; 27 Apr 2012 18:42:54 -0000 In-Reply-To: <8u62clghri.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> X-URL: http://www.math.ntnu.no/~hanche/ X-Mailer: Mew version 6.3.51 on Emacs 24.1.50 / Mule 6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:59571 Archived-At: [Glenn Morris (2012-04-27 18:18:57 UTC)] > Harald Hanche-Olsen wrote: > > > Ah. I see. But then define-mail-user-agent seems incomplete. At the > > very least, maybe the docstring for define-mail-user-agent should > > mention send-mail-function? > > I don't think so. A mail user agent is a separate thing from a mail > transport agent. Agreed. If emacs has managed to separate the two concepts to the point where you can mix and match the two, that is good news. (I think they used to be lumped together? In any case, I am pretty sure mew does not at present take advantage of this.) > Also, define-mail-user-agent is not something a user > should call. The mail package should do it. So if Mew does not do that > for you, I'd say that is a Mew bug. Hmm. I am guessing the reasoning is that they want to just autoload the whole package. But they could of course make a minimal file, call it mew-setup, say, and ask the user to (require 'mew-setup). It would lead to less clutter in peoples' .emacs files. I'll suggest that to the mew maintainer. > > which is a subsection of Mail Mode. > > I don't see that (there is no "Mail Mode" section in the current manual). Whoops. It turns out that I have been reading the emacs 23 manual. Argh!! (My emacs is in a nonstandard location. I get the right manual if I type g (emacs) in the Info buffer, but the wrong one if I pick from the top-level menu. I should have realized that. I'll go back and reread the manuals a bit, I guess. Both the emacs one and the mew one. - Harald