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From: Werner LEMBERG <wl@gnu.org>
To: eliz@gnu.org
Cc: parozusa@web.de, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: TUTORIAL.de updated
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2012 06:00:22 +0100 (CET)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20120120.060022.312018251.wl@gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83pqef4nrx.fsf@gnu.org>


>> Well, a typical US user doesn't need to know how to enter foreign
>> languages, does she?
> 
> Probably not, but then why does a German user need a lesson on how
> to type German on her keyboard?

It is not too uncommon that German users have a US keyboard because
they are programming a lot.  The characters [ ] { } are really awkward
to type on a German keyboard.

> Is a situation where a native German speaker learns to use Emacs on
> a machine that doesn't already support German input on the OS level
> anything but very rare?

Well, on my GNU/Linux box, the Quail input methods for German offered
by Emacs are better than SCIM.  One main reason is that the latter
disables the use of a `.XCompose' file, which is very bad for me.  I
don't know whether the successor of SCIM (I forgot its name) has fixed
this.

Regardless of the keyboard and input method issues, there are still
three dominant encodings used in Germany and Austria, namely latin-1,
windows-1252, and utf-8, and I consider it important that a user knows
how to force an encoding in case Emacs fails to recognize it properly.

As I said, the MULE section can be certainly improved :-)


    Werner



  reply	other threads:[~2012-01-20  5:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-01-18 15:12 TUTORIAL.de updated Werner LEMBERG
2012-01-19  9:09 ` Martin
2012-01-19  9:37   ` Werner LEMBERG
2012-01-19 12:03     ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-19 13:02       ` Werner LEMBERG
2012-01-19 14:55         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-01-19 16:24           ` Werner LEMBERG
2012-01-19 17:15         ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-20  5:00           ` Werner LEMBERG [this message]
2012-01-20  6:54             ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-19 15:52 ` Ulrich Mueller
2012-01-19 16:20   ` Werner LEMBERG
2012-01-19 16:41   ` quotation marks [was Re: TUTORIAL.de updated] Glenn Morris
2012-01-19 17:22     ` Drew Adams
2012-01-19 23:08       ` Paul Eggert
2012-01-20  3:02         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-01-20  6:23           ` Paul Eggert
2012-01-20  6:48         ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-20  7:49         ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-01-20  8:45           ` Paul Eggert
2012-01-20  9:24             ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-20 22:17               ` Paul Eggert
2012-01-21  8:59                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-01-21 10:29                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-21 11:12                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-01-21 11:16                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-21 12:52                         ` Andreas Schwab
2012-01-22  3:27                           ` David De La Harpe Golden
2012-01-22  3:32                             ` David De La Harpe Golden
2012-01-22  6:30                   ` Richard Stallman
2012-01-22  8:00                   ` Paul Eggert
2012-01-22 10:22                     ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-01-22 13:06                       ` James Cloos
2012-01-21  9:10                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-22  6:30                   ` Richard Stallman
2012-01-22  8:18                     ` Paul Eggert
2012-01-22  9:36                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-01-22 10:24                         ` Teemu Likonen
2012-01-22 10:54                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2012-01-22 10:54                         ` Paul Eggert
2012-01-22 11:56                           ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-01-22 20:35                             ` Paul Eggert
2012-01-22 15:35                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-01-22 16:33                             ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2012-01-23  7:04                       ` Richard Stallman
2012-01-20 12:13             ` quotation marks Ulrich Mueller
2012-01-20 12:44               ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-01-20 15:51                 ` Drew Adams
2012-01-20 18:40                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2012-01-20 12:01           ` quotation marks [was Re: TUTORIAL.de updated] James Cloos
2012-01-22 15:03             ` Richard Stallman
2012-01-20 14:05         ` Stefan Monnier
2012-01-20 22:34           ` Paul Eggert
2012-01-21  1:13             ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-01-21  1:26               ` Paul Eggert
2012-01-21  6:10                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-01-21  8:37                   ` Andreas Schwab
2012-01-21 18:13                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-01-21 19:58                       ` Tom Tromey
2012-01-21 17:17                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-01-21 17:19                 ` Ted Zlatanov
2012-01-19 18:14   ` TUTORIAL.de updated Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-01-19 18:50     ` quotation marks (was: Re: TUTORIAL.de updated) Ulrich Mueller
2012-01-19 21:45       ` Eli Zaretskii

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