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From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Should undefined behavior be encouraged in Emacs?
Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 08:38:14 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111007083814.GA2830@acm.acm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m31uupswu2.fsf@stories.gnus.org>

On Thu, Oct 06, 2011 at 10:12:53PM +0200, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote:
> Andreas Röhler <andreas.roehler@online.de> writes:

> > for me transient-mark-mode in connection with a mark set is enough.

> Oh, are we having this discussion again?

> I, like (I'm assuming) all other oldey-timey Emacs users :-), disabled
> `transient-mark-mode' the first chance I got.  And the reason for that
> is that `C-x C-x' activates the region, which makes it impossible to use
> that command to jump around in buffers.  Which I do constantly.

Yep, me too.  I disabled it in my .emacs in Emacs-22, disabling the
monstrosity before it happended.  Trouble is, I still have to do testing
in emacs -Q.  :-(

I detest the way it splurges blue ink over carefully crafted font
locking.  I hate the introduction of modal behaviour into Emacs as
default; it makes Emacs a bit like vi.  Oh, and the dishonest naming -
there is nothing left of `transient-mark-mode' because the mark is not
transient any longer, given that `mark-active-even-when-inactive' (???)
is set by default.

> If that rather odd overloading of the `C-x C-x' command went away, I
> might start using `transient-mark-mode'.

Thank [insert your god's name here] options can be set in Emacs.

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).



  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-10-07  8:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-10-03  1:39 Should undefined behavior be encouraged in Emacs? Paul Eggert
2011-10-03  3:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-10-03  6:39   ` Andreas Röhler
2011-10-03  7:29     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-10-03  8:58       ` Andreas Röhler
2011-10-06  2:17         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-10-06 17:30           ` Richard Stallman
2011-10-06 19:49             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-10-06 20:08               ` Andreas Röhler
2011-10-06 20:12                 ` Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen
2011-10-06 20:46                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-07  5:23                   ` Andreas Röhler
2011-10-07  7:44                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-10-07  7:52                     ` John Wiegley
2011-10-07 17:27                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-10-07  8:38                   ` Alan Mackenzie [this message]
2011-10-07 15:26                   ` Barry Warsaw
2011-10-07 18:06                     ` ken manheimer
2011-10-07 18:21                       ` Barry Warsaw
2011-10-07 18:46                       ` Óscar Fuentes
2011-10-07 19:59                         ` ken manheimer
2011-10-07 18:41                     ` Drew Adams
2011-10-08 13:49                   ` Miles Bader
2011-10-08 14:34                     ` Drew Adams
2011-10-03 13:16       ` Stefan Monnier
2011-10-03  9:20   ` Alan Mackenzie
2011-10-03  9:52     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-03  8:29 ` Andreas Schwab
2011-10-03  9:53   ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-03 13:13 ` Richard Stallman
2011-10-03 15:15   ` Dave Abrahams
2011-10-04  1:55     ` Richard Stallman
2011-10-04  2:18       ` Dave Abrahams
2011-10-03 16:14   ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-03 16:27     ` Andreas Schwab
2011-10-03 16:41       ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-10-04  1:55     ` Richard Stallman
2011-10-03 20:53   ` Paul Eggert
2011-10-03 14:49 ` Dave Abrahams

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