From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Steve Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: What's your favourite *under_publicized* editing feature of Emacs? Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 20:00:30 -0500 Message-ID: <20110302010029.GB3715@srevilak.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="RASg3xLB4tUQ4RcS" X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1299027675 7000 80.91.229.12 (2 Mar 2011 01:01:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 01:01:15 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 02 02:01:09 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PuaR6-00036T-5x for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 02 Mar 2011 02:01:04 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47223 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PuaR5-0005dr-IY for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Mar 2011 20:01:03 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=45248 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PuaQj-0005dj-MC for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Mar 2011 20:00:42 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PuaQi-0005Iw-Du for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Mar 2011 20:00:41 -0500 Original-Received: from mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net ([69.17.117.52]:55321) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PuaQi-0005Ij-3U for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Mar 2011 20:00:40 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 93 invoked from network); 2 Mar 2011 01:00:37 -0000 Original-Received: from pool-108-20-137-35.bstnma.fios.verizon.net (HELO srevilak.net) (srevilak@[108.20.137.35]) (envelope-sender ) by mail7.sea5.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with AES256-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 2 Mar 2011 01:00:37 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-Received-From: 69.17.117.52 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:79680 Archived-At: --RASg3xLB4tUQ4RcS Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline > What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to do > with Lisp, Janney? Why do you say that? > What does your recap have to do with Lisp, Janney? I don't understand. > What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to > do with Lisp, Janney? Not hiding an open port from the Internet is > an open invitation to hackers, Janney. Maybe your life has something to do with this. > What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to > do with Lisp, Janney? How can you connect to the version repository > to check files in and out if you aren't running the repo's server, > Janney? Is it because can me connect to the version repository to check files in and out if I am not running the repo's server that you came to me? > What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to > do with Lisp, Janney? The version control client (used to check > files in and out of the repo) needs a port to connect to, Janney. What makes you believe repo might want to have this port to connect to? > What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to > do with Lisp, Janney? The version control client (used to check > files in and out of the repo) needs to know where to connect to, > Janney. How does it feel to want? > What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to > do with Lisp, Janney? Version control clients are generally shell > commands, Janney, e.g. cvs and svn. IDEs like Eclipse and NetBeans > may provide graphical front ends to common version control systems, > Janney, but such IDEs are only applicable if you're using the > version control system for its intended purpose of software > development, Janney. Does it bother you that such ides are only applicable if I am using the version control system for its intended purpose of software development? > How ironic. Emacs has a steeper learning curve than any of the other > software that's been discussed here, Janney; consequently, using emacs > cannot possibly make any of these tasks easier. Emacs? Hah! I would appreciate it if you would continue. > What does your classic unsubstantiated and erroneous claim have to > do with Lisp, Janney? Perhaps your plans have something to do with this. >So much for your claims regarding it not being a command-line tool, Janney. Is it because of the people you hang around with that you are going through all this? > That a well-designed screwdriver might, in a pinch, be slammed into a > nail to drive it in does not make it preferable to a hammer for that > purpose, Janney. Does the fact that a well designed screwdriver might in a pinch be slammed into a nail to drive it in does not make it preferable to a hammer for that purpose explain anything else? > What does your classic erroneous presupposition have to do with Lisp, > Janney? I can imagine it just fine -- I just don't like the results I > see when I imagine it. What happened when you imagine it? > Diffs that are gobbledygook when you try to check > the history of your .doc files. Is it because are gobbledygook when me try to check the history of my doc files that you came to me? > Awkward work at 80s-retro command line > interfaces. The hellish experience of struggling with emacs's > idiosyncrasies trying to get it to do anything useful. What makes you believe that? > Of such things are my nightmares composed, Janney -- I who can face > the likes of Cthulhu with equanimity. Earlier you said gobbledygook when me try to check the history of my doc files? --RASg3xLB4tUQ4RcS Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.15 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk1tlq0ACgkQX7YJI4BuyDRFHwCfWp8mRBvQLLIe7a0OVT8rho6B JNYAnjr2fr05GVuR1UAxoPgcVaK0peay =baGy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --RASg3xLB4tUQ4RcS--