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From: Bastien ROUCARIES <roucaries.bastien@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: eggert@cs.ucla.edu, bug-gnulib@gnu.org,
	Jim Meyering <jim@meyering.net>,
	monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Files from gnulib
Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:33:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201101261433.59608.roucaries.bastien@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1Pi4rE-0005s3-C0@fencepost.gnu.org>

> > Considering your wish to continue supporting emacs on DOS,
> > I would have thought you would jump at a possible solution like this.
> 
> The solution would need to be rock solid, for me to jump at it.  DJGPP
> is very stable on plain DOS, and its users expect stability.
> 
> >     http://www-user.tu-chemnitz.de/~heha/hs_freeware/what_lfn.htm.en
> > 
> > Please give it an honest try before dismissing it.
> 
> It obviously has problems with protected-mode programs and
> environments, and with DOS extenders.  DJGPP programs switch the
> machine to 32-bit protected mode, so any programs that have
> difficulties with that environment are not promising.  And the fact
> that DJGPP is not mentioned as a solution for DOS programs that
> support LFN does not help to remove the cloud.

according to http://www.delorie.com/djgpp/doc/kb/kb_10.html
"The DJGPP library features transparent and automatic support for long file names on Windows 9X(1) The DJGPP startup code queries 
the system for the availability of the LFN API, and if it's available, all low-level file-oriented primitives are automatically 
switched to using the special LFN-aware functions. This run-time detection of the LFN support means that the same executable will 
run on DOS and on Windows, and will automatically support long file names when it runs on Windows 9X"

They are a faq entry on lfn:
http://www.delorie.com/djgpp/v2faq/faq22_16.html
And it seems that lfn is supported since djgpp 2.01 so since October 19, 1996.

according to 
http://www.unet.univie.ac.at/~a0503736/php/drdoswiki/index.php?n=Main.DevelCppBeginners
It could be used under drdos and with djgpp

I agree with you about bug but they seems minor like this
http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.emulators.freedos.kernel/1372
and could be fixed

doslfn is moreover well supported due to adoption of win95 even on fat12. 

Therefore since 2001 (creation of doslfn), 8.3 name problem should not exist. 

Instead of tackling the main problem lack of 8.3 support and use the new api, you are stick in the 90's. 

Thanks 

Bastien



  reply	other threads:[~2011-01-26 13:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 99+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-01-25  8:20 RE : Re: Files from gnulib Bastien ROUCARIES
2011-01-25 14:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-25 14:51   ` Jim Meyering
2011-01-25 15:33     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-25 16:32       ` Jim Meyering
2011-01-25 18:48         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-26  0:45           ` Miles Bader
2011-01-26  6:08             ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-26  6:41               ` Miles Bader
2011-01-26  2:42           ` Leo
2011-01-26  4:14             ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-26 10:52               ` Jim Meyering
2011-01-26 12:42                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-26 13:09                   ` Jim Meyering
2011-01-26 13:29                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-25 16:50       ` Ulrich Mueller
2011-01-25 18:50         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-25 19:31           ` Ulrich Mueller
2011-01-25 19:38             ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-25 20:00               ` Ulrich Mueller
2011-01-25 20:09                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-25 19:52           ` Óscar Fuentes
2011-01-25 20:19             ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-25 19:04         ` Stefan Monnier
2011-01-25 19:36           ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-25 22:37       ` Bastien ROUCARIES
2011-01-26  3:49         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-26 11:02           ` Jim Meyering
2011-01-26 11:52             ` Bastien ROUCARIES
2011-01-26 11:58               ` Bastien ROUCARIES
2011-01-26 13:12               ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-26 12:52             ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-26 13:33               ` Bastien ROUCARIES [this message]
2011-01-26 13:48                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-26 15:26                   ` Bastien ROUCARIES
2011-01-26 15:46                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-26 15:57                       ` Bastien ROUCARIES
2011-01-26 18:56                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-26 14:35                 ` Andy Moreton
2011-01-26 15:31                   ` Bastien ROUCARIES
2011-01-26 18:28                     ` Miles Bader
2011-01-26 18:59                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-27 10:54                   ` Simon Josefsson
2011-01-28  2:27                     ` Paul Eggert
2012-08-23 11:36             ` Bastien ROUCARIES
2012-08-23 16:23               ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-25 16:03     ` RE : " Leo
2011-01-25 17:16       ` Miles Bader
2011-01-26  2:33         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-01-26  7:18         ` Dan Nicolaescu
2011-01-26 16:15           ` Stefan Monnier
2011-01-27  3:08             ` Dan Nicolaescu
2011-01-25 18:05       ` Eli Zaretskii
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2011-01-23 12:15 Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-23 12:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-23 19:29 ` Paul Eggert
2011-01-23 22:16   ` Bruno Haible
2011-01-24  3:26   ` Stefan Monnier
2011-01-24  4:01     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-24 23:26       ` Paul Eggert
2011-01-25  4:00         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-25  8:48           ` Paul Eggert
2011-01-25 11:24             ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-25 11:32               ` Bastien ROUCARIES
2011-01-25 14:07                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-25 18:07               ` Paul Eggert
2011-01-25 19:02                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-25 21:03                   ` Stefan Monnier
2011-01-25 21:54                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-25 22:15                       ` Stefan Monnier
2011-01-26  1:05                         ` Paul Eggert
2011-01-26  4:12                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-26  6:01                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-26 16:11                               ` Stefan Monnier
2011-01-26  4:02                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-26  0:32                     ` Jason Rumney
2011-01-26  3:12                       ` Stefan Monnier
2011-01-25 21:24                   ` Paul Eggert
2011-01-25 22:06                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-26  0:54                       ` Paul Eggert
2011-01-26  4:10                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-26 11:13                           ` Jim Meyering
2011-01-26 13:09                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-26 13:23                               ` Jim Meyering
2011-01-26 13:29                                 ` Lennart Borgman
2011-01-26 13:33                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-26 13:37                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-26 13:50                                   ` Jim Meyering
2011-01-26 12:27                           ` Andreas Schwab
2011-01-26 13:17                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-26 13:24                               ` Andreas Schwab
2011-01-26 13:41                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-27  8:32                           ` Paul Eggert
2011-01-27 11:08                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-28  7:30                               ` Paul Eggert
2011-01-28 14:20                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-01-24  7:57     ` Glenn Morris
2011-01-24 16:37       ` Stefan Monnier
2011-01-24  4:07   ` Eli Zaretskii

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