> Though this wouldn't handle modified properties (cf bug#7861). > Perhaps one should parse .svn/entries (?) like the bzr heuristic does. > I guess since svn is generally fast, no-one's bothered to do this. Glenn, Thanks for looking into this. When I wrote 7850, I wasn't thinking of svn properties. Once you bring properties into the picture, running "svn status -v" makes more sense. >What are the implications if vc-svn-state-heuristic does not detect >modified properties? http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=7861 might answer that question. As far as svn is concerned, properties are separate from the contents of files, and can change independently. Changing file properties does not change the file mtime. Here is a small example, where a property changes, but the file contents do not. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ # foo.txt has a modified property $ svn status M foo.txt # svn diff shows that only properties have changed $ svn diff foo.txt Property changes on: foo.txt ___________________________________________________________________ Modified: svn:keywords - Id Revision Date Author URL + Id ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I am surprised that vc-dir does not notice this change (this is the subject of 7861). I am equally surprised that C-x C-f foo.txt C-x v v tells me "Fileset is up-to-date". So, you really cannot use emacs to commit a file that has only property changes. This also implies that emacs is not getting much benefit from running svn status after file saves. Would it make sense to run "svn status" during vc actions, but not during file saves? One thing I noticed while writing this example: when I change a property on foo.txt, svn 1.6 creates a .svn/props/foo.txt.svn-work, which contains a description of the property change. If I commit (or revert) foo.txt, then svn deletes .svn/props/foo.txt.svn-work. This might be a cheap way to test for properties changes. Steve