From: Alan L Tyree <alantyree@gmail.com>
To: mail@christianmoe.com
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: how difficultwould it be to support zotero in org?
Date: Sat, 4 Sep 2010 08:36:14 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100904083614.8af1a8a4.alantyree@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C8168DE.9060608@christianmoe.com>
On Fri, 03 Sep 2010 23:30:06 +0200
Christian Moe <mail@christianmoe.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm in the same situation, eager to do humanities in plain text.
>
> (One possibility is reStructuredText, with an elegant syntax and an
> excellent ODF exporter. But I love the Swiss-army-knife-ness of Org.)
>
> Just wondering two things:
>
> 1. Have you tried out Org > HTML > MS Word or OpenOffice, and how is
> it worse than mk4ht for someone who'd prefer not to learn latex?
>
> I find that this works amazingly well:
> - export HTML, delete the XML declaration
> - open HTML in OpenOffice and remove sections
> - select all, copy, paste into a new document, and save that document
> as .doc/.odt/.rtf (a bit cumbersome -- there ought to be an option to
> open HTML and Save As an office format, but I can't find it)
>
> This gives footnotes, tables, even bookmarks, with internal links to
> targets or custom IDs preserved.
You can use the same sequence using Abiword instead of OO. Abiword will
read the XHTML file w/o the necessity to delete the heading, and will
export directly to MS Word.
I have only used it for relatively short documents (< 20 pages), so
don't know how it will work on longer docs.
Cheers,
Alan
>
> 2. Given that the above is a viable path to get Rich Text Format
> documents, have you tried {Smith, 1995, 6-7} citations and formatting
> with Zotero's RTF scan (http://www.zotero.org/support/rtf_scan)? It's
> another manual step, of course, so the whole process gets pretty
> lengthy, but it does let you format bibliographies for Word with
> Zotero from Org...
>
> Yours,
> Christian
>
> > this is certainly something I'd like to do. But i have the problem
> > that (1) I don't really know how to use latex, and was trying to
> > avoid what now seems like the necessary task of learning how to use
> > it; and
> > (2) in my field (history) latex and bibtex are both pretty
> > problematic as export formats. Bibtex doesn't support most
> > humanistic citation styles (and has a rigid type strcture which
> > doesn't accommodate things like archival materials very well; while
> > latex is neither an acceptable submission format for most journals,
> > nor a good formation for collaboration with other scholars (since
> > everyone else writes in MS Word). This means that what I really
> > need is a more robust open-document exporter; but that's been
> > giving me problem after problem lately (for instance, mk4ht has
> > stopped exporting some of my most important documents, for reasons
> > I don't understand but might be related to org-mode's latex
> > exporter. I have this notion I saw a generic exporter that someone
> > wrote for odt, in which you feed the exporter a template document
> > which ocntains all the relevant style definitions. but I can't
> > find it anymore, and as I recall it didn't really seem to work very
> > well anyway.
> >
>
>
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-09-03 22:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-09-02 16:19 how difficultwould it be to support zotero in org? Matt Price
2010-09-02 19:45 ` David Maus
2010-09-02 21:58 ` Christian Moe
2010-09-02 23:18 ` Matt Price
2010-09-02 23:56 ` Matt Price
2010-09-03 0:50 ` Matt Price
2010-09-03 20:12 ` Scot Becker
2010-09-03 20:55 ` Matt Price
2010-09-04 17:33 ` Scot Becker
2010-09-05 9:09 ` Christian Moe
2010-10-13 9:18 ` Jean-Marie Gaillourdet
2010-10-14 9:29 ` Scot Becker
2010-09-03 21:30 ` Christian Moe
2010-09-03 22:36 ` Alan L Tyree [this message]
2010-09-02 21:35 ` Christian Moe
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