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From: "Ehud Karni" <ehud@unix.mvs.co.il>
To: handa@m17n.org
Cc: eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, handa@m17n.org
Subject: Re: Usage of standard-display-table in MSDOS
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2010 02:33:53 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <201009012333.o81NXrRq016732@beta.mvs.co.il> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <tl7k4n6174i.fsf@m17n.org> (message from Kenichi Handa on Wed, 01 Sep 2010 12:21:17 +0900)

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On Wed, 01 Sep 2010 12:21:17 Kenichi Handa wrote:
>
> handa> Should we change the above code and all other codes setting
> handa> 0x80th..0xA0th elements of a display table?
>
> I've just committed the work to emacs-23 branch.  Ehud,
> could you try it?

OK. I downloaded and compiled the emacs-23 branch.

I only tested the characters displayed in different language
environment on X and text terminal.

There are 2 big problems - display on text terminal and use of the
display table with `find-file-literally'.

My testing shows that the display table works well on X (in the
3 language environment tested), but VERY poorly on text terminal.

I change the language environment with `set-locale-environment'.


Problem 1:
On text terminal the language environment has great influence on the
use of the display table - characters not it the language - are
always displayed as ? . So in the "C" locale, all characters > 127
are displayed as ?.
In the "he_IL" locale (= ISO-8859-8) characters in the range
191-223 and 251-255 are displayed as ?.
In the "en_GB" locale (= ISO-8859-1) the Hebrew characters (#x5D0-
#x5EA) are displayed as ?.

I really must use the "he_IL" because most of the file my users view
are in ISO-8859-8 and a small part have MSDOS Hebrew (#x80-#x9A), but
I want to see all the characters (#xB0-#xDF) literally (i.e. when a
byte in this range is displayed, its 8 bit value should be sent to
the terminal.


Problem 2:
When I use `find-file-literally' to visit a file, the display table is
mostly ignored, characters in #xA0-B2 are displayed in \OOO form, while
#xB3-DF are displayed as empty boxes (on X), whatever locale I use.
This is a change from the behavior of emacs-21.
Note: This can be controlled by `set-buffer-multibyte t', but then the
display is sometimes corrupted.

I attach a tar.bz2 file containing the following files:

1. test-heb.el - 2 functions: `display-hebrew' sets the display table.
                              `chars-list' - show characters #x20-#xFF.
2. motd - a file with many graphic characters.

3. 23-X-disp.png - display of #x20-#xFF on X (good, not dependent on
                   the locale)

4. 23-tty-C.png  - chars #x20-#xFF on text terminal with locale "C".
5. 23-tty-he.png - chars #x20-#xFF on text terminal with locale "he_IL".
6. 23-tty-en.png - chars #x20-#xFF on text terminal with locale "en_GB".

7. 21-motd-lit.png - `find-file-literally' of the motd on text terminal
                   in emacs 21.4 (good).
8. 23-X-motd.png - the motd on X - upper window: literally,
                                   lower window: regular find-file.

Ehud.


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-09-01 23:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-08-23 12:44 Usage of standard-display-table in MSDOS Kenichi Handa
2010-08-24  5:34 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-24 11:13   ` Ehud Karni
2010-08-24 16:51     ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-25 13:04       ` Ehud Karni
2010-08-25 18:09         ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-26 15:26           ` Ehud Karni
2010-08-26 16:43             ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-27 13:35               ` Ehud Karni
2010-08-27 16:30                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-27 10:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-27 11:44   ` Kenichi Handa
2010-08-27 14:13     ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-28  4:18       ` Kenichi Handa
2010-08-28  7:22         ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-30  2:24           ` Kenichi Handa
2010-08-30  3:02             ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-09-01  3:21             ` Kenichi Handa
2010-09-01  9:20               ` Ehud Karni
2010-09-01 23:33               ` Ehud Karni [this message]
2010-09-02  5:19                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-09-02  5:20                 ` Kenichi Handa
2010-09-04 22:54                   ` Ehud Karni
2010-09-06  1:30                     ` Kenichi Handa
2010-09-02 12:32                 ` Kenichi Handa
2010-09-04 23:32                   ` Ehud Karni
2010-09-05  5:30                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-09-06  5:14                     ` Kenichi Handa
2010-08-29 10:16         ` Ehud Karni
2010-08-29 11:21           ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-29 11:49             ` Ehud Karni
2010-08-29 13:06               ` Ehud Karni
2010-08-29 13:50                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-29 14:04               ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-09-07 21:11                 ` Ehud Karni
2010-09-09 11:57                   ` Kenichi Handa

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