* bug#6909: transient-mark-mode
@ 2010-08-25 12:58 Marco Bisetto
2010-08-25 18:10 ` Alan Mackenzie
0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Marco Bisetto @ 2010-08-25 12:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 6909
Hi all,
This is not a bug, it's a wrong feature:
- transient-mark-mode on by default is a bad idea
- transient-mark-mode is a bad idea per se: you must press more keys and
waste energy for no reason
- Active Region Highlighting is nonsense if you use rectangles such as in
C-x r t
- Active Region Highlighting is a pain if you change your mind and no more
want to act on the region you just marked
* transient-mark-mode off by default is a possible workaround to this bad
situation where everybody must set it to nil in the configuration file
Bye.
--
Marco Bisetto
A few releases ago theese three lines weren't necessary in .emacs.el:
(global-set-key [home] 'beginning-of-buffer)
(global-set-key [end] 'end-of-buffer)
(setq transient-mark-mode nil)
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* bug#6909: transient-mark-mode
2010-08-25 12:58 bug#6909: transient-mark-mode Marco Bisetto
@ 2010-08-25 18:10 ` Alan Mackenzie
2010-08-25 22:52 ` Bastien
0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Alan Mackenzie @ 2010-08-25 18:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Marco Bisetto; +Cc: 6909
Hi, Marco
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 12:58:53PM +0000, Marco Bisetto wrote:
> Hi all,
> This is not a bug, it's a wrong feature:
Agreed
> - transient-mark-mode on by default is a bad idea
Agreed emphatically.
> - transient-mark-mode is a bad idea per se: you must press more keys and
> waste energy for no reason
Yes, indeed.
> - Active Region Highlighting is nonsense if you use rectangles such as in
> C-x r t
Wouldn't know, since I've never used "Active Region Highlighting".
> - Active Region Highlighting is a pain if you change your mind and no more
> want to act on the region you just marked
I'm sure you're right.
> * transient-mark-mode off by default is a possible workaround to this bad
> situation where everybody must set it to nil in the configuration file
Be thankful that there _is_ a workaround.
> Bye.
There's a history here. About 2 or 3 years ago, there was long,
acrimonious, and bitter (don't slag me off for tautology :-) debate on
the Emacs developers' mailing list about making transient-mark-mode
enabled by default. Every point you've raised (and quite a lot you
haven't) was fiercely fought over. In the end, the maintainers of Emacs
decided to leave the misfeature in.
Apparently, there are quite a lot of people who actually like t-m-m; I
can't imagine why.
I predict that, rather sadly, your bug report will be shoved to one side
and not acted upon. Nobody, not even me, wants to reopen the matter for
more argument.
Thanks indeed, though, for taking the trouble to submit this bug report.
> --
> Marco Bisetto
--
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).
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* bug#6909: transient-mark-mode
2010-08-25 18:10 ` Alan Mackenzie
@ 2010-08-25 22:52 ` Bastien
2011-07-09 18:56 ` Glenn Morris
0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread
From: Bastien @ 2010-08-25 22:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Alan Mackenzie; +Cc: Marco Bisetto, 6909
Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> writes:
> I predict that, rather sadly, your bug report will be shoved to one side
> and not acted upon. Nobody, not even me, wants to reopen the matter for
> more argument.
I guess it's never too late to make a poll and see whether most emacs
users are using the default or changing it.
--
Bastien
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* bug#6909: transient-mark-mode
2010-08-25 22:52 ` Bastien
@ 2011-07-09 18:56 ` Glenn Morris
0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread
From: Glenn Morris @ 2011-07-09 18:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 6909-done
I don't see a point to keeping this particular report open.
The issue has been done to death on other emacs mailing lists.
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