From: "Ehud Karni" <ehud@unix.mvs.co.il>
To: stephen@xemacs.org
Cc: eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org, handa@m17n.org
Subject: Re: Usage of standard-display-table in MSDOS
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 14:13:46 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <201008241113.o7OBDkUX011519@beta.mvs.co.il> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8739u47evm.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> (message from Stephen J. Turnbull on Tue, 24 Aug 2010 14:34:37 +0900)
On Tue, 24 Aug 2010 14:34:37 Stephen J. Turnbull wrote:
> >
> > ;; In multibyte mode, we want unibyte buffers to be displayed
> > ;; using the terminal coding system, so that they display
> > ;; correctly on the DOS terminal; in unibyte mode we want to see
> > ;; all 8-bit characters verbatim. In both cases, we want the
> > ;; entire range of 8-bit characters to arrive at our display code
> > ;; verbatim.
> > (standard-display-8bit 127 255)
> >
> > Is it really working in non-iso-8859-1 environment as
> > expected? Note that 128..255 are latin-1 characters after
> > Emacs 23, not raw-bytes. So, I think the above call will
> > make 8-bit bytes in unibyte buffer displayed as latin-1
> > characters, but as the termial encoding system doesn't
> > support latin-1 chars in, for instance, greek environment,
> > just '?' will be displayed.
>
> Hebrew and Cyrillic are other obvious candidates for testing here.
> They seem to have more active participants on emacs-devel.
From my checks this does not work on text terminals (it really depends
on the LANG env variable). I had this code in Emacs 21.3:
(defun set-standard-display-table ()
(setq standard-display-table (make-display-table))
(standard-display-8bit 127 254))
I then set the DOS Hebrew chars (128-144) each to a vector:
[ 169 <the corresponding UNIX Hebrew char> ]
Then visit a file (literally).
In Emacs 21.3 it works fine with any value of LANG, show the Hebrew
chars as they should, and Hebrew DOS (CP862) chars with a prefix.
In Emacs 23.1 it works only if the LANG is set to a Latin-1 value
(eg en_GB).
I want to see Hebrew (iso-8559-8) characters even when LANG=C, because
setting the LANG to he_IL changes to much other things (for example,
it change the `ls' output, which breaks dired).
The problem as I see it is that the characters it the vectors in the
display table are going further translation and not used "literally".
The use of UTF-8 (which works well on X) is not an option. Many of
the users has text terminals, and most of the data file viewed are
in iso-8859-8 or even Hebrew DOS (CP862).
I recently install some Emacs stuff in an Israeli insurance company
and because of this problem I used 21.3 instead of newer version.
Ehud.
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-08-24 11:13 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-08-23 12:44 Usage of standard-display-table in MSDOS Kenichi Handa
2010-08-24 5:34 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-24 11:13 ` Ehud Karni [this message]
2010-08-24 16:51 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-25 13:04 ` Ehud Karni
2010-08-25 18:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-26 15:26 ` Ehud Karni
2010-08-26 16:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-27 13:35 ` Ehud Karni
2010-08-27 16:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-27 10:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-27 11:44 ` Kenichi Handa
2010-08-27 14:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-28 4:18 ` Kenichi Handa
2010-08-28 7:22 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-30 2:24 ` Kenichi Handa
2010-08-30 3:02 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-09-01 3:21 ` Kenichi Handa
2010-09-01 9:20 ` Ehud Karni
2010-09-01 23:33 ` Ehud Karni
2010-09-02 5:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-09-02 5:20 ` Kenichi Handa
2010-09-04 22:54 ` Ehud Karni
2010-09-06 1:30 ` Kenichi Handa
2010-09-02 12:32 ` Kenichi Handa
2010-09-04 23:32 ` Ehud Karni
2010-09-05 5:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-09-06 5:14 ` Kenichi Handa
2010-08-29 10:16 ` Ehud Karni
2010-08-29 11:21 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-29 11:49 ` Ehud Karni
2010-08-29 13:06 ` Ehud Karni
2010-08-29 13:50 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-08-29 14:04 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-09-07 21:11 ` Ehud Karni
2010-09-09 11:57 ` Kenichi Handa
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