From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tassilo Horn Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs learning curve Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 20:23:31 +0200 Message-ID: <201007162023.32116.tassilo@member.fsf.org> References: <4C3B6A8A.80105@gmx.de> <87iq4f8gyh.fsf@telefonica.net> <874ofzl2ji.fsf@mithlond.arda> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1279304625 32731 80.91.229.12 (16 Jul 2010 18:23:45 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 18:23:45 +0000 (UTC) Cc: =?iso-8859-1?q?=D3scar_Fuentes?= , Teemu Likonen To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 16 20:23:44 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OZpZX-0004R7-0z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 20:23:43 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38439 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OZpZW-00062Z-BG for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 14:23:42 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=39729 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1OZpZR-00061P-5U for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 14:23:38 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OZpZP-0000lN-6I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 14:23:37 -0400 Original-Received: from out1.smtp.messagingengine.com ([66.111.4.25]:51059) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OZpZP-0000lG-4V for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 14:23:35 -0400 Original-Received: from compute2.internal (compute2.internal [10.202.2.42]) by gateway1.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A582716F278; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 14:23:34 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from heartbeat1.messagingengine.com ([10.202.2.160]) by compute2.internal (MEProxy); Fri, 16 Jul 2010 14:23:34 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=messagingengine.com; h=from:to:subject:date:cc:references:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:message-id; s=smtpout; bh=/m/iz2Rb5X3xzCLgucpBR8HOUJk=; b=SdLl24pM+oea/VmPJxoZk8NevuGoeISDIrho+Vddb450713IcXEBn/yXSj3yDawO8FsTiNOa1Qe1O8fPASdxxaEF4VpxVOxTNjSXRgw3SS9mR3dGQAoSlQAzMQoOoI4cX5DE8ndhPBn4pVMNbO7KCMZnR3ae+yWeq5LGkQHMzss= X-Sasl-enc: QhewVzI6Q2KE/LljxcQKR/AM18ZKw4PrZzFlRc5nG+Y3 1279304614 Original-Received: from thinkpad.localnet (p54AF1F70.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.175.31.112]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 401DB4E95F4; Fri, 16 Jul 2010 14:23:34 -0400 (EDT) User-Agent: KMail/1.13.5 (Linux/2.6.35-rc5-git1; KDE/4.4.5; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <874ofzl2ji.fsf@mithlond.arda> X-Face: `TY6r/ws=N5uqO1E`M=Sups<}n%T[E^o_?MJj< =?iso-8859-1?q?O4j=265ljV6lU=7DcXU7oftH=26/x=5F=7EK=7B=26zv9=7D=0A=09sB?= =?iso-8859-1?q?=7D5/Ea=5BhU=7BCS=23=3F=3F0=3F=3Fn?=@sX+ft]?{(l?, mp"a`u List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:127451 Archived-At: On Friday 16 July 2010 20:11:45 Teemu Likonen wrote: > Exactly. Vi editor has very ergonomic movement and editing keys (and > elegant operator+movement concept). Try using VI on one of those layouts, and then tell me if it's convenient: http://itproductivitytools.com/images/dvorak.jpg http://neo-layout.org/grafik/druckvorlage/neo-druckvorlage.png Bye, Tassilo