Emacs 23.1.97 pretest

Emacs 23.1.97 pretest

[Chong Yidong]

Emacs pretest 23.1.97 is now available for download via FTP, at the
following location:

  ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/emacs-23.1.97.tar.gz

The xdelta against the Emacs 23.1.96 pretest is here:

  ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/emacs-23.1.96-23.1.97.xdelta

Barring any unforseen circumstances, this will be the final pretest
before the Emacs 23.2 release.  I encourage everyone to give this
pretest as much testing as possible.  If you find any regressions,
kindly report them immediately.

Pretesters: please send me an email reporting success or failure on your
build platform.  Report bugs via M-x report-emacs-bugs, or email
emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org.  For questions, email emacs-devel@gnu.org.

Developers: since we are so close to the release, please refrain from
making all but the most obviously-correct changes to the branch, without
first discussing with Stefan or myself (or on emacs-devel).

Thanks.

Re: Emacs 23.1.97 pretest

[Deniz Dogan]

2010/5/4 Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com>:
> Emacs pretest 23.1.97 is now available for download via FTP, at the
> following location:
>
>  ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/emacs-23.1.97.tar.gz
>
> The xdelta against the Emacs 23.1.96 pretest is here:
>
>  ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/emacs-23.1.96-23.1.97.xdelta
>
> Barring any unforseen circumstances, this will be the final pretest
> before the Emacs 23.2 release.  I encourage everyone to give this
> pretest as much testing as possible.  If you find any regressions,
> kindly report them immediately.
>
> Pretesters: please send me an email reporting success or failure on your
> build platform.  Report bugs via M-x report-emacs-bugs, or email
> emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org.  For questions, email emacs-devel@gnu.org.
>
> Developers: since we are so close to the release, please refrain from
> making all but the most obviously-correct changes to the branch, without
> first discussing with Stefan or myself (or on emacs-devel).
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>

Could someone please provide a Windows build of this version?

Thanks,
Deniz Dogan

Re: Emacs 23.1.97 pretest

[Juanma Barranquero]

On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 04:12, Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com> wrote:

> Emacs pretest 23.1.97 is now available for download via FTP, at the
> following location:
>
>  ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/emacs-23.1.97.tar.gz

Builds, bootstraps and runs OK on Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit, using
MinGW (gcc 4.5.0).

    Juanma

Re: Emacs 23.1.97 pretest

[Sean Sieger]

Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com> writes:

    Emacs pretest 23.1.97 is now available for download via FTP, at the
    following location:

      ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/emacs-23.1.97.tar.gz

    The xdelta against the Emacs 23.1.96 pretest is here:

      ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/emacs-23.1.96-23.1.97.xdelta

    Barring any unforseen circumstances, this will be the final pretest
    before the Emacs 23.2 release.  I encourage everyone to give this
    pretest as much testing as possible.  If you find any regressions,
    kindly report them immediately.

    Pretesters: please send me an email reporting success or failure on your
    build platform.  Report bugs via M-x report-emacs-bugs, or email
    emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org.  For questions, email emacs-devel@gnu.org.


The pretest was built and runs successfully on Windows. Binaries have
been uploaded to

   http://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/windows/


    Developers: since we are so close to the release, please refrain from
    making all but the most obviously-correct changes to the branch, without
    first discussing with Stefan or myself (or on emacs-devel).

    Thanks.

Re: Emacs 23.1.97 pretest

[Tak Ota]

Some Japanese characters don't render correctly.  One such example
character is the middle letter in the word game "ゲーム".  Another one
I found is the dot character here between 1 and 2 "１・２".

It is tested on GNU Emacs 23.1.97.1 (i386-mingw-nt6.1.7600) running on
Windows 7 Professional 64-bit (6.1, Build 7600).  This problem is not
new and has been observed for some time.

I first reported this problem for pretest 23.1.94.

C-u C-x = on the above two characters says:

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
        character: ー (12540, #o30374, #x30fc)
preferred charset: unicode (Unicode (ISO10646))
       code point: 0x30FC
           syntax: w 	which means: word
         category:
		   .:Base, H:2-byte Hiragana, K:2-byte Katakana, j:Japanese, |:line breakable
      buffer code: #xE3 #x83 #xBC
        file code: not encodable by coding system iso-latin-1-dos
          display: no font available

Character code properties: customize what to show
  name: KATAKANA-HIRAGANA PROLONGED SOUND MARK
  general-category: Lm (Letter, Modifier)


---------------------------------------------------------------------------
        character: ・ (12539, #o30373, #x30fb)
preferred charset: unicode (Unicode (ISO10646))
       code point: 0x30FB
           syntax: _ 	which means: symbol
         category:
		   .:Base, K:2-byte Katakana, c:Chinese, j:Japanese, |:line breakable
      buffer code: #xE3 #x83 #xBB
        file code: not encodable by coding system iso-latin-1-dos
          display: no font available

Character code properties: customize what to show
  name: KATAKANA MIDDLE DOT
  general-category: Po (Punctuation, Other)


-Tak


Mon, 3 May 2010 19:12:02 -0700: Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com> wrote:

> Emacs pretest 23.1.97 is now available for download via FTP, at the
> following location:
> 
>   ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/emacs-23.1.97.tar.gz
> 
> The xdelta against the Emacs 23.1.96 pretest is here:
> 
>   ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/emacs-23.1.96-23.1.97.xdelta
> 
> Barring any unforseen circumstances, this will be the final pretest
> before the Emacs 23.2 release.  I encourage everyone to give this
> pretest as much testing as possible.  If you find any regressions,
> kindly report them immediately.
> 
> Pretesters: please send me an email reporting success or failure on your
> build platform.  Report bugs via M-x report-emacs-bugs, or email
> emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org.  For questions, email emacs-devel@gnu.org.
> 
> Developers: since we are so close to the release, please refrain from
> making all but the most obviously-correct changes to the branch, without
> first discussing with Stefan or myself (or on emacs-devel).
> 
> Thanks.
> 

bug#6029: Emacs 23.1.97 pretest

[Jason Rumney]

Tak Ota <Takaaki.Ota@am.sony.com> writes:

> C-u C-x = on the above two characters says:
...
>           display: no font available

What about C-u C-x = on some Japanese characters that do display?

The above tells me that whatever font is being selected for Japanese
characters is missing those two characters. Seems unlikely, and it
almost certainly isn't the case for all Japanese fonts installed on
the Japanese version of Windows 7.

bug#6029: Emacs 23.1.97 pretest

[Tak Ota]

Wed, 5 May 2010 07:49:15 -0700: Jason Rumney <jasonr@gnu.org> wrote:

> 
> Tak Ota <Takaaki.Ota@am.sony.com> writes:
> 
> > C-u C-x = on the above two characters says:
> ...
> >           display: no font available
> 
> What about C-u C-x = on some Japanese characters that do display?
> 
> The above tells me that whatever font is being selected for Japanese
> characters is missing those two characters. Seems unlikely, and it
> almost certainly isn't the case for all Japanese fonts installed on
> the Japanese version of Windows 7.


        character: ゲ (12466, #o30262, #x30b2)
preferred charset: unicode (Unicode (ISO10646))
       code point: 0x30B2
           syntax: w 	which means: word
         category:
		   .:Base, K:2-byte Katakana, c:Chinese, h:Korean, j:Japanese, |:line breakable
      buffer code: #xE3 #x82 #xB2
        file code: not encodable by coding system iso-latin-1-dos
          display: by this font (glyph code)
    uniscribe:-outline-BatangChe-normal-normal-normal-mono-13-*-*-*-c-*-jisx0208*-* (#x1040)

Character code properties: customize what to show
  name: KATAKANA LETTER GE
  general-category: Lo (Letter, Other)
  decomposition: (12465 12441) ('ケ' '゙')

bug#6029: Emacs 23.1.97 pretest

[Jason Rumney]

Tak Ota <Takaaki.Ota@am.sony.com> writes:

>         character: ゲ (12466, #o30262, #x30b2)

>           display: by this font (glyph code)
>     uniscribe:-outline-BatangChe-normal-normal-normal-mono-13-*-*-*-c-*-jisx0208*-* (#x1040)

Isn't BatangChe a Korean font?  Why do your Japanese fonts get overlooked?

What do the following say (copy to the *scratch* buffer and press Ctrl-J
after each line):

(list-fonts (font-spec :registry "JISX0208*"))
(list-fonts (font-spec :registry "GB2312.1980-0"))
(list-fonts (font-spec :registry "KSC5601.1987*"))
(list-fonts (font-spec :registry "iso10646-1" :script 'kana))

bug#6029: Emacs 23.1.97 pretest

[Tak Ota]

Thu, 6 May 2010 06:42:52 -0700: Jason Rumney <jasonr@gnu.org> wrote:

> Tak Ota <Takaaki.Ota@am.sony.com> writes:
> 
> >         character: ゲ (12466, #o30262, #x30b2)
> 
> >           display: by this font (glyph code)
> >     uniscribe:-outline-BatangChe-normal-normal-normal-mono-13-*-*-*-c-*-jisx0208*-* (#x1040)
> 
> Isn't BatangChe a Korean font?  Why do your Japanese fonts get overlooked?
> 
> What do the following say (copy to the *scratch* buffer and press Ctrl-J
> after each line):
> 
> (list-fonts (font-spec :registry "JISX0208*"))
> (list-fonts (font-spec :registry "GB2312.1980-0"))
> (list-fonts (font-spec :registry "KSC5601.1987*"))
> (list-fonts (font-spec :registry "iso10646-1" :script 'kana))

Here is the result.  If you need full length lists without truncation
let me know how to avoid the truncation in the *scratch* buffer.

-Tak

(list-fonts (font-spec :registry "JISX0208*"))
(#<font-entity uniscribe outline Batang serif jisx0208* normal normal normal 0 nil 0 nil ((:format . opentype) (:script symbol kanbun ideographic-description han hangul kana cjk-misc cyrillic greek latin))> #<font-entity uniscribe outline BatangChe mono jisx0208* normal normal normal 0 nil 110 nil ((:format . opentype) (:script symbol kanbun ideographic-description han hangul kana cjk-misc cyrillic greek latin))> #<font-entity uniscribe outline Gungsuh serif jisx0208* normal normal normal 0 nil 0 nil ((:format . opentype) (:script symbol kanbun ideographic-description han hangul kana cjk-misc cyrillic greek latin))> #<font-entity uniscribe outline GungsuhChe mono jisx0208* normal normal normal 0 nil 110 nil ((:format . opentype) (:script symbol kanbun ideographic-description han hangul kana cjk-misc cyrillic greek latin))> #<font-entity uniscribe outline Gulim sans jisx0208* normal normal normal 0 nil 0 nil ((:format . opentype) (:script symbol kanbun ideographic-description han hangul kana cjk-misc cyrillic greek latin))> #<font-entity uniscribe outline GulimChe mono jisx0208* normal normal normal 0 nil 110 nil ((:format . opentype) (:script symbol kanbun ideographic-description han hangul kana cjk-misc cyrillic greek latin))> #<font-entity uniscribe outline Dotum sans jisx0208* normal normal normal 0 nil 0 nil ((:format . opentype) (:script symbol kanbun ideographic-description han hangul kana cjk-misc cyrillic greek latin))> #<font-entity uniscribe outline DotumChe mono jisx0208* normal normal normal 0 nil 110 nil ((:format . opentype) (:script symbol kanbun ideographic-description han hangul kana cjk-misc cyrillic greek latin))> #<font-entity uniscribe outline Meiryo sans jisx0208* bold italic normal 0 nil 0 nil ((:format . opentype) (:script symbol khmer kanbun ideographic-description han kana cjk-misc thai bengali cyrillic greek ...))> #<font-entity uniscribe outline Meiryo sans jisx0208* bold normal normal 0 nil 0 nil ((:format . opentype) (:script symbol khmer kanbun ideographic-description han kana cjk-misc thai bengali cyrillic greek ...))> #<font-entity uniscribe outline Meiryo sans jisx0208* normal italic normal 0 nil 0 nil ((:format . opentype) (:script symbol khmer kanbun ideographic-description han kana cjk-misc thai bengali cyrillic greek ...))> #<font-entity uniscribe outline Meiryo sans jisx0208* normal normal normal 0 nil 0 nil ((:format . opentype) (:script symbol khmer kanbun ideographic-description han kana cjk-misc thai bengali cyrillic greek ...))> ...)

(list-fonts (font-spec :registry "GB2312.1980-0"))
(#<font-entity uniscribe outline Batang serif gb2312\.1980-0 normal normal normal 0 nil 0 nil ((:format . opentype) (:script symbol kanbun ideographic-description han hangul kana cjk-misc cyrillic greek latin))> #<font-entity uniscribe outline BatangChe mono gb2312\.1980-0 normal normal normal 0 nil 110 nil ((:format . opentype) (:script symbol kanbun ideographic-description han hangul kana cjk-misc cyrillic greek latin))> #<font-entity uniscribe outline Gungsuh serif gb2312\.1980-0 normal normal normal 0 nil 0 nil ((:format . opentype) (:script symbol kanbun ideographic-description han hangul kana cjk-misc cyrillic greek latin))> #<font-entity uniscribe outline GungsuhChe mono gb2312\.1980-0 normal normal normal 0 nil 110 nil ((:format . opentype) (:script symbol kanbun ideographic-description han hangul kana cjk-misc cyrillic greek latin))> #<font-entity uniscribe outline Gulim sans gb2312\.1980-0 normal normal normal 0 nil 0 nil ((:format . opentype) (:script symbol kanbun ideographic-description han hangul kana cjk-misc cyrillic greek latin))> #<font-entity uniscribe outline GulimChe mono gb2312\.1980-0 normal normal normal 0 nil 110 nil ((:format . opentype) (:script symbol kanbun ideographic-description han hangul kana cjk-misc cyrillic greek latin))> #<font-entity uniscribe outline Dotum sans gb2312\.1980-0 normal normal normal 0 nil 0 nil ((:format . opentype) (:script symbol kanbun ideographic-description han hangul kana cjk-misc cyrillic greek latin))> #<font-entity uniscribe outline DotumChe mono gb2312\.1980-0 normal normal normal 0 nil 110 nil ((:format . opentype) (:script symbol kanbun ideographic-description han hangul kana cjk-misc cyrillic greek latin))> #<font-entity uniscribe outline Meiryo sans gb2312\.1980-0 bold italic normal 0 nil 0 nil ((:format . opentype) (:script symbol khmer kanbun ideographic-description han kana cjk-misc thai bengali cyrillic greek ...))> #<font-entity uniscribe outline Meiryo sans gb2312\.1980-0 bold normal normal 0 nil 0 nil ((:format . opentype) (:script symbol khmer kanbun ideographic-description han kana cjk-misc thai bengali cyrillic greek ...))> #<font-entity uniscribe outline Meiryo sans gb2312\.1980-0 normal italic normal 0 nil 0 nil ((:format . opentype) (:script symbol khmer kanbun ideographic-description han kana cjk-misc thai bengali cyrillic greek ...))> #<font-entity uniscribe outline Meiryo sans gb2312\.1980-0 normal normal normal 0 nil 0 nil ((:format . opentype) (:script symbol khmer kanbun ideographic-description han kana cjk-misc thai bengali cyrillic greek ...))> ...)

(list-fonts (font-spec :registry "KSC5601.1987*"))
nil

(list-fonts (font-spec :registry "iso10646-1" :script 'kana))
(#<font-entity uniscribe outline Batang serif iso10646-1 normal normal normal 0 nil 0 nil ((:format . opentype) (:script symbol kanbun ideographic-description han hangul kana cjk-misc cyrillic greek latin))> #<font-entity uniscribe outline BatangChe mono iso10646-1 normal normal normal 0 nil 110 nil ((:format . opentype) (:script symbol kanbun ideographic-description han hangul kana cjk-misc cyrillic greek latin))> #<font-entity uniscribe outline Gungsuh serif iso10646-1 normal normal normal 0 nil 0 nil ((:format . opentype) (:script symbol kanbun ideographic-description han hangul kana cjk-misc cyrillic greek latin))> #<font-entity uniscribe outline GungsuhChe mono iso10646-1 normal normal normal 0 nil 110 nil ((:format . opentype) (:script symbol kanbun ideographic-description han hangul kana cjk-misc cyrillic greek latin))> #<font-entity uniscribe outline Gulim sans iso10646-1 normal normal normal 0 nil 0 nil ((:format . opentype) (:script symbol kanbun ideographic-description han hangul kana cjk-misc cyrillic greek latin))> #<font-entity uniscribe outline GulimChe mono iso10646-1 normal normal normal 0 nil 110 nil ((:format . opentype) (:script symbol kanbun ideographic-description han hangul kana cjk-misc cyrillic greek latin))> #<font-entity uniscribe outline Dotum sans iso10646-1 normal normal normal 0 nil 0 nil ((:format . opentype) (:script symbol kanbun ideographic-description han hangul kana cjk-misc cyrillic greek latin))> #<font-entity uniscribe outline DotumChe mono iso10646-1 normal normal normal 0 nil 110 nil ((:format . opentype) (:script symbol kanbun ideographic-description han hangul kana cjk-misc cyrillic greek latin))> #<font-entity uniscribe outline Meiryo sans iso10646-1 bold italic normal 0 nil 0 nil ((:format . opentype) (:script symbol khmer kanbun ideographic-description han kana cjk-misc thai bengali cyrillic greek ...))> #<font-entity uniscribe outline Meiryo sans iso10646-1 bold normal normal 0 nil 0 nil ((:format . opentype) (:script symbol khmer kanbun ideographic-description han kana cjk-misc thai bengali cyrillic greek ...))> #<font-entity uniscribe outline Meiryo sans iso10646-1 normal italic normal 0 nil 0 nil ((:format . opentype) (:script symbol khmer kanbun ideographic-description han kana cjk-misc thai bengali cyrillic greek ...))> #<font-entity uniscribe outline Meiryo sans iso10646-1 normal normal normal 0 nil 0 nil ((:format . opentype) (:script symbol khmer kanbun ideographic-description han kana cjk-misc thai bengali cyrillic greek ...))> ...)

Re: Emacs 23.1.97 pretest

[Eli Zaretskii]

> Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 14:07:31 -0700
> From: Tak Ota <Takaaki.Ota@am.sony.com>
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> 
> Some Japanese characters don't render correctly.  One such example
> character is the middle letter in the word game "ゲーム".  Another one
> I found is the dot character here between 1 and 2 "１・２".

But Emacs says quite clearly what is the reason, I think:

>         character: ー (12540, #o30374, #x30fc)
> preferred charset: unicode (Unicode (ISO10646))
>        code point: 0x30FC
>            syntax: w 	which means: word
>          category:
> 		   .:Base, H:2-byte Hiragana, K:2-byte Katakana, j:Japanese, |:line breakable
>       buffer code: #xE3 #x83 #xBC
>         file code: not encodable by coding system iso-latin-1-dos
>           display: no font available
            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>         character: ・ (12539, #o30373, #x30fb)
> preferred charset: unicode (Unicode (ISO10646))
>        code point: 0x30FB
>            syntax: _ 	which means: symbol
>          category:
> 		   .:Base, K:2-byte Katakana, c:Chinese, j:Japanese, |:line breakable
>       buffer code: #xE3 #x83 #xBB
>         file code: not encodable by coding system iso-latin-1-dos
>           display: no font available
            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Could it be that you have no fonts for these characters?

Re: Emacs 23.1.97 pretest

[Yu-ji Hosokawa]

Hello,

I think the problem is that the default font for Japanese chosen by
Emacs is not Japanese font.
Because even if I type `C-u C-x =' on "ゲ" on my Windows 7 box with
emacs -Q, Emacs says,

|        character: ゲ (12466, #o30262, #x30b2)
|preferred charset: japanese-jisx0208
|		   (JISX0208.1983/1990 Japanese Kanji: ISO-IR-87)
|       code point: 0x2532
|           syntax: w 	which means: word
|         category:
|		   .:Base, K:2-byte Katakana, c:Chinese, h:Korean, j:Japanese, |:line breakable
|      buffer code: #xE3 #x82 #xB2
|        file code: #x83 #x51 (encoded by coding system japanese-shift-jis-dos)
|          display: by this font (glyph code)
|    uniscribe:-outline-BatangChe-normal-normal-normal-mono-13-*-*-*-c-*-jisx0208*-* (#x1040)
|
|Character code properties: customize what to show
|  name: KATAKANA LETTER GE
|  general-category: Lo (Letter, Other)
|  decomposition: (12465 12441) ('ケ' '゙')

BatangChe is the font designed for Korean.
"MS Gothic" is the suitable default font for Japanese Windows, IMO.

-- 
Yu-ji Hosokawa

|Date: Wed, 05 May 2010 20:14:37 +0300
|From: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
|Message-Id: <83wrvijmo2.fsf@gnu.org>
|Subject: Re: Emacs 23.1.97 pretest
>> Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 14:07:31 -0700
>> From: Tak Ota <Takaaki.Ota@am.sony.com>
>> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
>> 
>> Some Japanese characters don't render correctly.  One such example
>> character is the middle letter in the word game "ゲーム".  Another one
>> I found is the dot character here between 1 and 2 "１・２".
> 
> But Emacs says quite clearly what is the reason, I think:
> 
>>         character: ー (12540, #o30374, #x30fc)
>> preferred charset: unicode (Unicode (ISO10646))
>>        code point: 0x30FC
>>            syntax: w 	which means: word
>>          category:
>> 		   .:Base, H:2-byte Hiragana, K:2-byte Katakana, j:Japanese, |:line breakable
>>       buffer code: #xE3 #x83 #xBC
>>         file code: not encodable by coding system iso-latin-1-dos
>>           display: no font available
>             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 
>>         character: ・ (12539, #o30373, #x30fb)
>> preferred charset: unicode (Unicode (ISO10646))
>>        code point: 0x30FB
>>            syntax: _ 	which means: symbol
>>          category:
>> 		   .:Base, K:2-byte Katakana, c:Chinese, j:Japanese, |:line breakable
>>       buffer code: #xE3 #x83 #xBB
>>         file code: not encodable by coding system iso-latin-1-dos
>>           display: no font available
>             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 
> Could it be that you have no fonts for these characters?
> 
> 

Re: Emacs 23.1.97 pretest

[Jason Rumney]

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

> Could it be that you have no fonts for these characters?

Not likely on a copy of Windows 7 purchased in Japan. These are very
common characters in Japanese writing.

It seems that Emacs has chosen a font with only partial coverage for
displaying Japanese text, but I don't understand why this would be the
case.

Re: Emacs 23.1.97 pretest

[Yu-ji Hosokawa]

Hello,

>> Some Japanese characters don't render correctly.  One such example
>> character is the middle letter in the word game "ゲーム".  Another one
>> I found is the dot character here between 1 and 2 "１・２".
> 
> But Emacs says quite clearly what is the reason, I think:


I think the problem is that the default font for Japanese chosen by
Emacs is not Japanese font.
Because even if I type `C-u C-x =' on "ゲ" on my Windows 7 box with
emacs -Q, Emacs says,

|        character: ゲ (12466, #o30262, #x30b2)
|preferred charset: japanese-jisx0208
|		   (JISX0208.1983/1990 Japanese Kanji: ISO-IR-87)
|       code point: 0x2532
|           syntax: w 	which means: word
|         category:
|		   .:Base, K:2-byte Katakana, c:Chinese, h:Korean, j:Japanese, |:line breakable
|      buffer code: #xE3 #x82 #xB2
|        file code: #x83 #x51 (encoded by coding system japanese-shift-jis-dos)
|          display: by this font (glyph code)
|    uniscribe:-outline-BatangChe-normal-normal-normal-mono-13-*-*-*-c-*-jisx0208*-* (#x1040)
|
|Character code properties: customize what to show
|  name: KATAKANA LETTER GE
|  general-category: Lo (Letter, Other)
|  decomposition: (12465 12441) ('ケ' '゙')

BatangChe is the font designed for Korean.
"MS Gothic" is the suitable default font for Japanese Windows, IMO.


-- 
Yu-ji Hosokawa

Re: Emacs 23.1.97 pretest

[Andy Moreton]

On Tue 04 May 2010, Chong Yidong wrote:

> Emacs pretest 23.1.97 is now available for download via FTP, at the
> following location:
>
>   ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/emacs-23.1.97.tar.gz
>
Builds and runs fine on using MinGW (gcc 4.4.0) on Windows XP 32bit.

    AndyM

bug#6111: Emacs 23.1.97 pretest

[David Robinow]

On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 10:12 PM, Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com> wrote:
> Emacs pretest 23.1.97 is now available for download via FTP, at the
> following location:
>
>  ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/emacs-23.1.97.tar.gz

The curly brackets in lib-src/makefile.w32-in are still there! The
pretest (and the last five pretests) will not compile using the
Microsoft compiler. This bug has been reported numerous times.
PLEASE, either fix this or drop support for Visual Studio 2003.

Re: Emacs 23.1.97 pretest

[David Robinow]

On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 10:12 PM, Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com> wrote:
> Emacs pretest 23.1.97 is now available for download via FTP, at the
> following location:
>
>  ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/emacs-23.1.97.tar.gz

The curly brackets in lib-src/makefile.w32-in are still there! The
pretest (and the last five pretests) will not compile using the
Microsoft compiler. This bug has been reported numerous times.
PLEASE, either fix this or drop support for Visual Studio 2003.

bug#6111: Emacs 23.1.97 pretest

[Chong Yidong]

David Robinow <drobinow@gmail.com> writes:

> On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 10:12 PM, Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com> wrote:
>> Emacs pretest 23.1.97 is now available for download via FTP, at the
>> following location:
>>
>>  ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/emacs-23.1.97.tar.gz
>
> The curly brackets in lib-src/makefile.w32-in are still there! The
> pretest (and the last five pretests) will not compile using the
> Microsoft compiler. This bug has been reported numerous times.
> PLEASE, either fix this or drop support for Visual Studio 2003.

I've fixed it now, thanks for the reminder.

Re: Emacs 23.1.97 pretest

[Chong Yidong]

David Robinow <drobinow@gmail.com> writes:

> On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 10:12 PM, Chong Yidong <cyd@stupidchicken.com> wrote:
>> Emacs pretest 23.1.97 is now available for download via FTP, at the
>> following location:
>>
>>  ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/emacs-23.1.97.tar.gz
>
> The curly brackets in lib-src/makefile.w32-in are still there! The
> pretest (and the last five pretests) will not compile using the
> Microsoft compiler. This bug has been reported numerous times.
> PLEASE, either fix this or drop support for Visual Studio 2003.

I've fixed it now, thanks for the reminder.

Re: Emacs 23.1.97 pretest

[Juanma Barranquero]

On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 19:27, David Robinow <drobinow@gmail.com> wrote:

> The curly brackets in lib-src/makefile.w32-in are still there!

Yes. The patch was committed to the trunk and has not been backported
to the emacs-23 branch.

> The
> pretest (and the last five pretests) will not compile using the
> Microsoft compiler. This bug has been reported numerous times.
> PLEASE, either fix this or drop support for Visual Studio 2003.

I agree we should fix it, but this is a bit too dramatic. Anyone
trying to build with Visual Studio will likely notice the problem and
just hand-fix the makefile...

    Juanma

Re: Emacs 23.1.97 pretest

[Sven Joachim]

On 2010-05-04 04:12 +0200, Chong Yidong wrote:

> Emacs pretest 23.1.97 is now available for download via FTP, at the
> following location:
>
>   ftp://alpha.gnu.org/gnu/emacs/pretest/emacs-23.1.97.tar.gz

Built successfully on Debian sid i386 (that's no surprise), but

- many .elc files were remade (could be a problem for people trying to
  cross-compile Emacs)

- one spurious backup file left after "make distclean"

- one file shipped in the tarball deleted by "make distclean"

Detailed list of changed files (emacs-23.1.97 is freshly unpacked,
emacs-23.1.97-build has gone through "configure && make all distclean"):

,----
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`----

Sven

Re: Emacs 23.1.97 pretest

[Glenn Morris]

Sven Joachim wrote:

> - many .elc files were remade

This is a long-standing issue:

http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=2151

> - one spurious backup file left after "make distclean"
>
> - one file shipped in the tarball deleted by "make distclean"

> | Only in emacs-23.1.97-build/lisp: subdirs.el~

> | Only in emacs-23.1.97/src: buildobj.h