From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: mathias@mnet-mail.de Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Tweaking t-m-m to make room for d-s-m Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 09:28:33 +0100 Message-ID: <20100326092833.19294vuz9efv5qg4@webmail.mnet-online.de> References: <87sk7pzqsp.fsf@ambire.localdomain> <8739zps45s.fsf@mean.albasani.net> <87mxxw6c7b.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1269592547 19775 80.91.229.12 (26 Mar 2010 08:35:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 08:35:47 +0000 (UTC) Cc: David Kastrup , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 26 09:35:43 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nv514-00058S-Ob for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 26 Mar 2010 09:35:43 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:39743 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Nv514-0000go-5m for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 26 Mar 2010 04:35:42 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Nv4uW-00042c-Tx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Mar 2010 04:28:56 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=60058 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Nv4uP-0003vm-S6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Mar 2010 04:28:56 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nv4uO-0006WJ-NL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Mar 2010 04:28:49 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-out.m-online.net ([212.18.0.10]:53060) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nv4uH-0006U0-6p; Fri, 26 Mar 2010 04:28:41 -0400 Original-Received: from mail01.m-online.net (mail.m-online.net [192.168.3.149]) by mail-out.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3DA41C00546; Fri, 26 Mar 2010 09:28:34 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (dynscan1.mnet-online.de [192.168.8.164]) by mail.m-online.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B593B91794; Fri, 26 Mar 2010 09:28:34 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mnet-online.de Original-Received: from mail.mnet-online.de ([192.168.3.149]) by localhost (dynscan1.mnet-online.de [192.168.8.164]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id c5vT+cxXHqUH; Fri, 26 Mar 2010 09:28:33 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from webmail.mnet-online.de (webmail1.mnet-online.de [212.18.5.57]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.mnet-online.de (Postfix) with ESMTP; Fri, 26 Mar 2010 09:28:33 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from host-62-245-234-168.customer.m-online.net (host-62-245-234-168.customer.m-online.net [62.245.234.168]) by webmail.mnet-online.de (Horde Framework) with HTTP; Fri, 26 Mar 2010 09:28:33 +0100 In-Reply-To: Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) H3 (4.3.5) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:122700 Archived-At: IMHO this is the best proposal I've seen in this thread. Zitat von Stefan Monnier : > This C-x C-x issue can also be solved if we can come up with a short > key-binding that activates the region (in which case C-x C-x doesn't > need to activate the region). Notice that we also have a need for > a short key-binding to deactivate the region (one that has fewer > side-effects than C-g, e.g. can be embedded in a keyboard macro). > So maybe the answer to all this is to find a "short" key-binding that > can toggle the region's active status. Couldn't C-x SPC be used to activate the region (without changing point and mark)? It seems unused and is easier to type then Alan's suggestion. Mathias