From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Ehud Karni" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.bidi Subject: Re: [emacs-bidi] Mixed L2R and R2L paragraphs and horizontal scroll Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 15:22:19 +0200 Organization: Mivtach-Simon Insurance agencies Message-ID: <201002031322.o13DMJ9L023085@beta.mvs.co.il> References: <83tyu3iu6b.fsf@gnu.org> <201002011400.o11E0jMQ007420@beta.mvs.co.il> <83vdeghfqg.fsf@gnu.org> <201002012205.o11M5Sci011809@beta.mvs.co.il> <83k4uvh09o.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: ehud@unix.mvs.co.il NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1265203366 17061 80.91.229.12 (3 Feb 2010 13:22:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 13:22:46 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-bidi@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: eliz@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 03 14:22:39 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NcfBk-0002Jw-Tj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Feb 2010 14:22:37 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48252 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NcfBk-0006uq-Ao for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 03 Feb 2010 08:22:36 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NcfBf-0006ul-CE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Feb 2010 08:22:31 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=53221 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NcfBf-0006ud-0e for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Feb 2010 08:22:31 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NcfBa-0007uy-Fo for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 03 Feb 2010 08:22:29 -0500 Original-Received: from [193.16.147.12] (port=35962 helo=unix.mvs.co.il) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NcfBY-0007ua-Oq; Wed, 03 Feb 2010 08:22:25 -0500 Original-Received: from beta.mvs.co.il (beta [10.253.0.3]) by unix.mvs.co.il (8.13.8/8.13.7) with ESMTP id o13DMKxQ004925; Wed, 3 Feb 2010 15:22:20 +0200 Original-Received: from beta.mvs.co.il (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by beta.mvs.co.il (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o13DMKBU023088; Wed, 3 Feb 2010 15:22:20 +0200 Original-Received: (from root@localhost) by beta.mvs.co.il (8.14.1/8.14.1/Submit) id o13DMJ9L023085; Wed, 3 Feb 2010 15:22:19 +0200 In-reply-to: <83k4uvh09o.fsf@gnu.org> (message from Eli Zaretskii on Tue, 02 Feb 2010 22:04:51 +0200) X-Mailer: Emacs 21.3.1 rmail (send-msg 1.109) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:120851 gmane.emacs.bidi:505 Archived-At: On Tue, 02 Feb 2010 22:04:51 Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > > > > A real example will help here. > > > > Here is a real example (upper case = Hebrew) > > PUT THE FILES IN > > /dir1/sdr2/sdr3 > > AND I WILL TAKE THEM > > > > This will appear as (think of 160 character wide text screen): > > NI SELIF EHT TUP > > /dir1/sdr2/sdr3 > > MEHT EKAT LLIW I DNA > > And why would ``rigid scrolling'' help in this case? This has nothing to do with "rigid scrolling" (or I don't understand this concept), and everything with `right-margin-goal-column' which is a logical right edge of the screen for R2L display. In a wide screen the above will be shown as: +------------------------------------------------------------+ | NI SELIF EHT TUP| |/dir1/sdr2/sdr3 | | MEHT EKAT LLIW I DNA| +------------------------------------------------------------+ In a less wide screen it will be shown as: +----------------------------+ | NI SELIF EHT TUP| |/dir1/sdr2/sdr3 | | MEHT EKAT LLIW I DNA| +----------------------------+ In a wide screen with `right-margin-goal-column` set to 30: +------------------------------------------------------------+ | NI SELIF EHT TUP | |/dir1/sdr2/sdr3 | | EHT EKAT LLIW I DNA | +------------------------------------------------------------+ I hope this is clearer. Ehud. -- Ehud Karni Tel: +972-3-7966-561 /"\ Mivtach - Simon Fax: +972-3-7976-561 \ / ASCII Ribbon Campaign Insurance agencies (USA) voice mail and X Against HTML Mail http://www.mvs.co.il FAX: 1-815-5509341 / \ GnuPG: 98EA398D Better Safe Than Sorry