From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: tomas@tuxteam.de Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Emacsweblogs] i18n Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 19:13:08 +0100 Message-ID: <20100201181308.GA7499@tomas> References: <1e7a74211001281954h1295a717id942a4405dc98b25@mail.gmail.com> <87vdekbt60.fsf@everybody.org> <1e7a74211001310729s6b0c506cv41cdea9b19274fba@mail.gmail.com> <87fx5l8kat.fsf@everybody.org> <877hqxqqxz.fsf@xemacs.org> <87hbq1rw4n.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <87vdehozth.fsf@xemacs.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; x-action=pgp-signed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1265048316 21905 80.91.229.12 (1 Feb 2010 18:18:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 18:18:36 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 01 19:18:33 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Nc0r1-0008Ll-K6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 01 Feb 2010 19:18:31 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:46707 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Nc0r0-0001LJ-NW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 01 Feb 2010 13:18:30 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Nc0mV-0008Fz-Pp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Feb 2010 13:13:51 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=56572 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Nc0mV-0008Ff-4o for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Feb 2010 13:13:51 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Nc0mS-0008AO-Qr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Feb 2010 13:13:50 -0500 Original-Received: from mx20.gnu.org ([199.232.41.8]:6318) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Nc0mS-00088U-9S for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Feb 2010 13:13:48 -0500 Original-Received: from alextrapp1.equinoxe.de ([217.22.192.104] helo=www.elogos.de) by mx20.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Nc0mP-0004KM-W9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 01 Feb 2010 13:13:46 -0500 Original-Received: by www.elogos.de (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 055179004F; Mon, 1 Feb 2010 19:13:09 +0100 (CET) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87vdehozth.fsf@xemacs.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.15+20070412 (2007-04-11) X-detected-operating-system: by mx20.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:120784 Archived-At: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 10:22:50PM +0900, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Juri Linkov writes: > > > The question is "Too ugly?" > >=20 > > Perhaps less ugly would be not to add special markers to each and ev= ery > > message, but to translate existing messages internally [...] > The problem is that the *human* translators need the markers to know > what to translate. ...and then there are menus and other things. You'd have to locate every function bound to display a user-facing string (and what do you do about messages being "synthesised" programatically?). I think it does make sense to mark the strings themselves: "this is a translatable string". Regards - -- tom=C3=A1s -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFLZxm0Bcgs9XrR2kYRApcyAJ9fqfwqHbdTq80l9GxnJTnhEQUcRwCfQldH 8parkqxpnGSB6yV6U2W3RY0=3D =3DlM0j -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----