From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: karl@freefriends.org (Karl Berry) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: e23 inverse video on mode line and nowhere else Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 02:04:08 GMT Message-ID: <201002010204.o11248nw019790@f7.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1264989881 13802 80.91.229.12 (1 Feb 2010 02:04:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2010 02:04:41 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 01 03:04:39 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NbleX-0002Km-Ng for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 01 Feb 2010 03:04:38 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:48047 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NbleW-0008Ok-MZ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 31 Jan 2010 21:04:36 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NbleA-0008NQ-Ax for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 31 Jan 2010 21:04:14 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=60013 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Nble9-0008NB-R7 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 31 Jan 2010 21:04:13 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Nble8-0004od-IS for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 31 Jan 2010 21:04:13 -0500 Original-Received: from b0.f7.net ([66.148.120.132]:35876 helo=f7.net) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Nble8-0004oV-3W for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 31 Jan 2010 21:04:12 -0500 X-Envelope-From: karl@freefriends.org X-Envelope-To: Original-Received: from f7.net (sls-af11p1 [127.0.0.1]) by f7.net (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id o11248LX019791 for ; Sun, 31 Jan 2010 21:04:11 -0500 Original-Received: (from karl@localhost) by f7.net (8.14.4/8.14.4/submit) id o11248nw019790; Mon, 1 Feb 2010 02:04:08 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: localhost.localdomain: karl set sender to karl@freefriends.org using -f X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:71601 Archived-At: Thanks to everyone for replying, although unfortunately these suggestions do not work for me.(*) I've filed a bug about compile.el using non-mode-line-faces on the mode line. Meanwhile, I'll guess I'll try to defadvise mode line creation, or something. Karl (*) list-faces and customize-face are useless for me. They do not allow for completely turning off "facification", last time I tried anyway. Beyond that, they are far too ui-intensive, mess around with my startup files, and most importantly there are far too many faces to deal with that way. And new faces crop up at the drop of a hat. The Elisp that Juri sent me years ago, which I included in my original post, already takes care of the issue in general, as well as possible. (http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gnu-emacs/2010-01/msg00196.html) What I posted about this month is a new problem, where, as Juri and I said, non-mode-line faces are used to propertize text for the mode line. It's no different in the 23.1.92 pretest, either. Anyway.