From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Trent W. Buck" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#5347: 23.1; M-x man: misreports absent man(1) as absent manpage. Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 10:59:31 +1100 Message-ID: <20100110235929.GA1956@Clio> References: <4b48732e.e701be0a.4cf2.3e5c@mx.google.com> <83skaf8jgv.fsf@gnu.org> <20100110030538.GB2083@Clio> <83pr5i8v07.fsf@gnu.org> <20100110043036.GA3424@Clio> <83ocl197gt.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: "Trent W. Buck" , 5347@debbugs.gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1263169162 3998 80.91.229.12 (11 Jan 2010 00:19:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 00:19:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 5347@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 11 01:19:15 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NU801-0003RN-6j for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 11 Jan 2010 01:19:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:33388 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NU801-0004ws-HH for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 10 Jan 2010 19:19:13 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NU7zw-0004wR-Mu for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Jan 2010 19:19:08 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NU7zs-0004w7-3c for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Jan 2010 19:19:08 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=38094 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NU7zs-0004w4-1E for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Jan 2010 19:19:04 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:54990) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NU7zr-0001DM-Qh for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 10 Jan 2010 19:19:03 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NU7hS-000356-NC; Sun, 10 Jan 2010 19:00:02 -0500 X-Loop: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Mail-Followup-To: "Trent W. 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Buck" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-To: owner@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 00:00:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 5347 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 5347-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B5347.126316798411807 (code B ref 5347); Mon, 11 Jan 2010 00:00:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 5347) by debbugs.gnu.org; 10 Jan 2010 23:59:44 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NU7hA-00034O-Ap for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 10 Jan 2010 18:59:44 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-yw0-f203.google.com ([209.85.211.203]) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NU7h7-00034B-Qt for 5347@debbugs.gnu.org; Sun, 10 Jan 2010 18:59:42 -0500 Original-Received: by ywh41 with SMTP id 41so36213293ywh.0 for <5347@debbugs.gnu.org>; Sun, 10 Jan 2010 15:59:37 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:date:from:to:cc:subject :message-id:references:mime-version:content-type:content-disposition :in-reply-to:user-agent; bh=9rRVJfO6M84q6ULvIOTBPNm2L7Bi06I9oBcuestfzcM=; b=ZFTyXmvPPlxFzadEACvATGCQuXjoELjHOeeqpkJBM6XgruANSAKeFdmHdHVNB2yhO1 YtxdQV3AtqJFq/XRod46u1RD+ehM6bZaV/KlaABRIAosFUGTPyQESYHbm2/nL+LCoIwp ULDucsXwQxDJmFZ8uxTaYzq4fZONU4l5WOo2U= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent; b=pQ6Zy4Snsg1lW7HT0o0RqFMRmbfIzQkV7qlGJoJgJV9Aa/Ltctk3eF2OVpvmjDvsdB eVWs/8dtgZMYAwcNlMjOInqXyVYiBa7rETMmOoK+a14M29AQL/EMutqUSw0WuamYoRrj yT66oS2SCr/quLW1VjATW4UsK+UAqz+zqmvxc= Original-Received: by 10.150.10.2 with SMTP id 2mr804135ybj.252.1263167977640; Sun, 10 Jan 2010 15:59:37 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from localhost (nat064.cyber.com.au [203.7.155.64]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 23sm8753428ywh.48.2010.01.10.15.59.35 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Sun, 10 Jan 2010 15:59:36 -0800 (PST) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <83ocl197gt.fsf@gnu.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list X-Spam-Score: -2.6 (--) Resent-Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 19:00:02 -0500 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:34186 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii wrote: > Why is the use-case of having man pages but not man(1) so important > that it's worth catering to? I was merely being pedantic re "cannot know" versus "not worth the effort". The original case arose because I forgot what system I was on and ran man instead of woman, and the error briefly confused me. A peonland solution would simply be to put in my .emacs: (unless (executable-find "man") (defalias 'man 'woman)) > Maybe it would be good enough to change > > (error "Can't find the %s manpage" args) > into > (error "Can't find the %s manpage or no man(1)" args) Yup, that'd be fine.