From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Marek Aaron Sapota Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Gentoo GNU/Linux and non-free packages Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 07:44:40 -0500 Message-ID: <20100108124440.GE1426@fencepost.localnet> References: <87ocl9wqjp.fsf_-_@thinkpad.tsdh.de> <201bac3a1001051610t25a1a767v79398943193c3e89@mail.gmail.com> <87iqbexqgi.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> <20100108000622.GA1426@fencepost.localnet> <873a2h7xlk.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> <20100108111454.GC1426@fencepost.localnet> <87r5q07qe9.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="idY8LE8SD6/8DnRI" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1262954703 28716 80.91.229.12 (8 Jan 2010 12:45:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2010 12:45:03 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 08 13:44:53 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NTECy-0002dA-TY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Jan 2010 13:44:53 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36307 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NTECz-0002f9-JE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Jan 2010 07:44:53 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NTECs-0002bK-Bm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jan 2010 07:44:46 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NTECn-0002Ty-Ew for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jan 2010 07:44:45 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=55809 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NTECn-0002Tm-8r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jan 2010 07:44:41 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]:41607) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NTECm-0000E7-Ug for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jan 2010 07:44:41 -0500 Original-Received: from maarons by fencepost.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NTECm-0006uy-Pf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jan 2010 07:44:40 -0500 Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87r5q07qe9.fsf@thinkpad.tsdh.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:119680 Archived-At: --idY8LE8SD6/8DnRI Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jan 08, 2010 at 12:56:13PM +0100, Tassilo Horn wrote: > I've just checked xorg-x11, and it has only hard dependencies to fonts > licensed under the MIT license or public domain. I guess, I've set some > use flag, which enables this additional dependency. I've just checked what I have removed from the ebuild: Bigelow & Holmes fonts - they are now labelled as MIT licensed. Unless the license was changed recently it is incorrect, this fonts didn't permit changing them if I remember right.=20 Reference from webmasters at gnu.org: By Karl Berry: One thing I noticed scrolling through the package list at http://www.dragora.org/os/current/ReleaseNotes.txt was the lucidatypewriter fonts. Unless Bigelow & Holmes made an unusual exception I am not aware of (please confirm/deny?), I don't think it's free. They have never allowed modification of any of their fonts, bitmap or outline -> hence nonfree. Do you know if it's in gnewsense? and also by Karl Berry: As for the Lucida Sans Typewriter fonts, Chuck said that he has to check his records to be completely sure, which may take a few days. But he is pretty sure that modification is not allowed, or at most is limited to translation to other bitmap fonts. Given that, and that the fonts aren't in gNewSense, I think it's pretty safe to say they should be removed. > > Indeed - it makes it inconvenient to use only Free Software with > > Gentoo. >=20 > I agree, but that will get better. I hope it will but now it isn't good enough. >=20 > > To be a Free Distribution Gentoo would have to show commitment to Free > > Software and they clearly don't. >=20 > The social contract does: In practice try installing Netbeans and see how it fails on proprietary dependences. Happy hacking Marek Aaron Sapota --idY8LE8SD6/8DnRI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFLRyi4Pw8cAmBIdTMRAjYIAKCstC0d55q3+T8FUimUkTyyuMhmqgCbBbP6 1vBRRfpf38y1bctnAGZDfIs= =9iWV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --idY8LE8SD6/8DnRI--