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From: Marek Aaron Sapota <maarons@gnu.org>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Gentoo GNU/Linux and non-free packages
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 19:06:22 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100108000622.GA1426@fencepost.localnet> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1NT1AH-00015Q-TP@fencepost.gnu.org>

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On Thu, Jan 07, 2010 at 05:49:13PM -0500, Richard Stallman wrote:
>     Well, that hardly qualifies as an still standing argument.  As soon as
>     the new package manager version is stable, it's only a matter of what
>     defaults the Gentoo devs choose as acceptable licenses.  I guess, they
>     will choose only FSF and OSI approved licenses.
> 
> Are you saying that the Gentoo developers might soon delete all the
> ports for non-free programs from Gentoo?  That could make it a 100%
> free distro, and we might be able to endorse it.  (We would have to
> check for blobs in their version of Linux.)

Gentoo devs have already chosen - by default it is everything that
doesn't require explicit agreement from user and this aren't only FSF
and OSI approved licenses. As reference:

http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=152593

It is possible to use only Free Software with Gentoo but it isn't that
easy:
- packages have non-free dependences, sometimes programs compile fine
  without them, but they are pulled in anyway
- some free "alternatives" are only in additional repositories
- predefined license groups (for example FSF approved) are not complete
- some packages have wrong licenses (usually license is named after the
  package even if it really is for example GPL)

Gentoo isn't even close to being a Free Distribution in FSF sense, I
have no idea why some people treat it as such.

Happy hacking
Marek Aaron Sapota

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  reply	other threads:[~2010-01-08  0:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-12-28 17:04 'bzr init-repo .' crashes for lack of module bz2. Help, please! Alan Mackenzie
2009-12-28 21:14 ` Karl Fogel
2009-12-28 23:05 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2009-12-29 20:08   ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-12-29 20:19     ` Andreas Schwab
2009-12-29 20:57       ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-12-29 23:49         ` David De La Harpe Golden
2009-12-31 12:06           ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-12-31 17:04             ` David De La Harpe Golden
2010-01-03 17:33               ` Alan Mackenzie
2010-01-03 18:16                 ` Tassilo Horn
2010-01-03 21:56                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2010-01-04  0:06                     ` Miles Bader
2010-01-04  0:13                       ` Jason Rumney
2010-01-06 13:30                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2010-01-04  8:16                     ` Tassilo Horn
2010-01-04 16:23                       ` Richard Stallman
2010-01-04 20:42                         ` Gentoo GNU/Linux and non-free packages (was: 'bzr init-repo .' crashes for lack of module bz2. Help, please!) Tassilo Horn
2010-01-05  9:03                           ` Gentoo GNU/Linux and non-free packages Ulrich Mueller
2010-01-05 20:45                             ` Richard Stallman
2010-01-05 20:45                           ` Gentoo GNU/Linux and non-free packages (was: 'bzr init-repo .' crashes for lack of module bz2. Help, please!) Richard Stallman
2010-01-06  0:10                             ` Jonas Bernoulli
2010-01-06 20:45                               ` Richard Stallman
2010-01-07  8:35                                 ` Gentoo GNU/Linux and non-free packages Tassilo Horn
2010-01-07 22:49                                   ` Richard Stallman
2010-01-08  0:06                                     ` Marek Aaron Sapota [this message]
2010-01-08  9:30                                       ` Tassilo Horn
2010-01-08 11:20                                         ` Marek Aaron Sapota
     [not found]                                         ` <20100108111454.GC1426@fencepost.localnet>
2010-01-08 11:56                                           ` Tassilo Horn
2010-01-08 12:44                                             ` Marek Aaron Sapota
2010-01-08 14:44                                               ` Tassilo Horn
2010-01-08 15:47                                                 ` Marek Aaron Sapota
2010-01-08 15:23                                         ` Yavor Doganov
2010-01-08 15:57                                           ` Marek Aaron Sapota
2010-01-08 16:23                                             ` Tassilo Horn
2010-01-08 16:46                                               ` David Kastrup
2010-01-08  8:56                                     ` Tassilo Horn
2010-01-08 23:01                                       ` Richard Stallman
2010-01-06  7:35                             ` Tassilo Horn

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