From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alan Mackenzie Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Inadequate documentation of silly characters on screen. Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:15:03 +0000 Message-ID: <20091118101502.GB1277@muc.de> References: <20091118093716.GA1277@muc.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1258539044 17425 80.91.229.12 (18 Nov 2009 10:10:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 10:10:44 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Miles Bader Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 18 11:10:37 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1NAhUh-0001PQ-46 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 11:10:35 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34321 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NAhUg-0002RH-Je for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 05:10:34 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NAhUH-0002D6-Iw for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 05:10:09 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1NAhUC-00028E-Ad for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 05:10:08 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=51156 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1NAhUC-00027v-03 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 05:10:04 -0500 Original-Received: from colin.muc.de ([193.149.48.1]:2158 helo=mail.muc.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1NAhUA-0008JG-R4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 05:10:03 -0500 Original-Received: (qmail 85320 invoked by uid 3782); 18 Nov 2009 10:10:00 -0000 Original-Received: from acm.muc.de (pD9E22877.dip.t-dialin.net [217.226.40.119]) by colin2.muc.de (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 11:09:58 +0100 Original-Received: (qmail 5592 invoked by uid 1000); 18 Nov 2009 10:15:03 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.1.5 (Fettercairn) X-Primary-Address: acm@muc.de X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: FreeBSD 4.6-4.9 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:117162 Archived-At: Hi, Miles, thanks for such a quick answer. On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 06:40:53PM +0900, Miles Bader wrote: > Alan Mackenzie writes: > > Once again, I'm getting silly characters on the screen. In *scratch*, > > where's I've written "ñ", what gets displayed is "\361". It may have > > happened when I upgraded to Emacs 23. > Does it happen with "emacs -Q"? Yes. > How do you "write" ñ (do you use an input method? Type it on your keyboard...?)? When I hold the key and type "241" on the numeric keypad, the "ñ" appears correctly on the screen. My program does (insert pr-line), where pr-line is a string containing the ñ - this puts \361 up. > What language environment do you use (if you don't set it explicitly, it > will be set automatically from the LANG environment variable)? I've tried M-x set-language-environment latin-1. The mode line of my *scratch* looks like this: -111:**--F1 *scratch* All L10 C184 (Lisp Interaction)----P678/678 > Do you use X emacs, emacs in a tty, etc.? If tty emacs, which type of > terminal do you use? A Linux tty. > -Miles -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).