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From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Inadequate documentation of silly characters on screen.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 09:37:16 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20091118093716.GA1277@muc.de> (raw)

Hi, Emacs,

Once again, I'm getting silly characters on the screen.  In *scratch*,
where's I've written "ñ", what gets displayed is "\361".  It may have
happened when I upgraded to Emacs 23.

This keeps happening to me, I don't know why, but most importantly it
seems unusually poorly documented.  Goodness knows how an ordinary user
manages this, but I cannot easily track down the proper bit in the
manual to sort this out.

Things like character sets and their display isn't my area.  Why won't
it just work?

I go to the coding systems page.  There is no @def{coding system}, just
vague references with which you're supposed to get the understanding by
osmosis.  What I DON'T get from this osmosis is whether or not "coding
systems" deal with the garbage "\361" on my screen.  There is definitely
a missing "For the appearance of the text on your screen @ref{...}".

So, once again, I've got between half an hour and an hour of wasted time
trying to debug, yet again, this problem.  Why can I not easily find the
answer in the Emacs manual?

Of secondary importance, why does this problem keep happening in the
first place?

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).




             reply	other threads:[~2009-11-18  9:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-18  9:37 Alan Mackenzie [this message]
2009-11-18  9:40 ` Inadequate documentation of silly characters on screen Miles Bader
2009-11-18 10:15   ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-11-18 12:03     ` Jason Rumney
2009-11-18 15:02     ` Stefan Monnier
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-11-18 19:12 [acm@muc.de: Re: Inadequate documentation of silly characters on screen.] Alan Mackenzie
2009-11-19  1:27 ` Fwd: Re: Inadequate documentation of silly characters on screen Stefan Monnier
2009-11-19  8:20   ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-11-19  8:50     ` Miles Bader
2009-11-19 14:08     ` Fwd: " Stefan Monnier
2009-11-19 14:50       ` Jason Rumney
2009-11-19 15:27         ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-19 23:12           ` Miles Bader
2009-11-20  2:16             ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-20  3:37             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-20  4:30               ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-20  7:18                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-20 14:16                   ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-21  4:13                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-21  5:24                       ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-21  6:42                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-21  6:49                           ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-21  7:27                             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-23  1:58                               ` Stefan Monnier
2009-11-21 12:33                           ` David Kastrup
2009-11-21 13:55                             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-21 14:36                               ` David Kastrup
2009-11-21 17:53                                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-11-21 23:30                                   ` David Kastrup
2009-11-22  1:27                                     ` Sebastian Rose
2009-11-22  8:06                                       ` David Kastrup
2009-11-22 23:52                                         ` Sebastian Rose

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