Org-mode version 6.31a; "conflicting packages" section lacks some (tiny) viper info

Org-mode version 6.31a; "conflicting packages" section lacks some (tiny) viper info

[Stefano Zacchiroli]

Remember to cover the basics, that is, what you expected to happen and
what in fact did happen.  You don't know how to make a good report?  See

     http://orgmode.org/manual/Feedback.html#Feedback

Your bug report will be posted to the Org-mode mailing list.
------------------------------------------------------------------------

Heya,
  I'm using Org mode (beware: I'm an Org newbie!) and Viper mode. I've
noticed that there is a small incompatibility between the two, as Viper
(at least in export mode) has "C-c /" set to a command related to search
settings, whereas Org uses that for the sparse tree menu. To me it is
not a big deal as Viper's C-c / is, IMO, a completely useless setting
command, but it is still worth to be mentioned in manual section
14.7.2. Can you please do that?

Given my premise, my "solution" for that is simply to override Viper's
C-c / as follows:

  (define-key viper-vi-global-user-map (kbd "C-c /") 'org-sparse-tree)

It is suboptimal since it sets "C-c /" as org-sparse-tree everywhere,
while it would be better to do that only in Org mode buffers. I've tried
with hooks and local maps, but I failed to obtain a more-local
solution. If you find it, you might want to specify that rather than
mine.

Thanks for Org!
Cheers.


Emacs  : GNU Emacs 23.1.50.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.18.3)
 of 2009-10-23 on elegiac, modified by Debian
Package: Org-mode version 6.31a

current state:
==============
(setq
 org-special-ctrl-a/e t
 org-agenda-files '("~/example.org")
 org-after-todo-state-change-hook '(org-clock-out-if-current)
 org-agenda-skip-scheduled-if-done t
 org-export-preprocess-hook '(org-export-blocks-preprocess)
 org-tab-first-hook '(org-hide-block-toggle-maybe)
 org-src-mode-hook '(org-src-mode-configure-edit-buffer)
 org-confirm-shell-link-function 'yes-or-no-p
 org-agenda-before-write-hook '(org-agenda-add-entry-text)
 org-default-notes-file "~/dati/org/notes.org"
 org-directory "~/dati/org"
 org-cycle-hook '(org-cycle-hide-archived-subtrees org-cycle-hide-drawers org-cycle-show-empty-lines
		  org-optimize-window-after-visibility-change)
 org-mode-hook '(#[nil "\300\301\302\303\304$\207" [org-add-hook change-major-mode-hook org-show-block-all append local] 5])
 org-confirm-elisp-link-function 'yes-or-no-p
 org-agenda-start-on-weekday nil
 org-reverse-note-order t
 org-insert-mode-line-in-empty-file t
 org-occur-hook '(org-first-headline-recenter)
 org-from-is-user-regexp "\\<Stefano Zacchiroli\\>"
 org-remember-templates '(("Web" 119 "* %?\n\n Source: %U, %c\n\n %i" nil "Note (Web)")
			  ("Mail" 109 "* %?\n\n Source: %u, %c\n %i" nil "Note (Mail)")
			  ("Note" 110 "* %?\n\n Source: %U, %c\n\n %i" nil "Note"))
 org-link-abbrev-alist '(("debbug" . "http://bugs.debian.org/"))
 )

-- 
Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7
zack@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/
Dietro un grande uomo c'è ..|  .  |. Et ne m'en veux pas si je te tutoie
sempre uno zaino ...........| ..: |.... Je dis tu à tous ceux que j'aime

Re: Org-mode version 6.31a; "conflicting packages" section lacks some (tiny) viper info

[Stephan Schmitt]

Hi Stefano,

I don't know if this helps, but did you try
(global-unset-key (kbd "C-c /"))
in your init file (before org-mode is loaded)?

Greetings,
	Stephan

Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> 
> Remember to cover the basics, that is, what you expected to happen and
> what in fact did happen.  You don't know how to make a good report?  See
> 
>      http://orgmode.org/manual/Feedback.html#Feedback
> 
> Your bug report will be posted to the Org-mode mailing list.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Heya,
>   I'm using Org mode (beware: I'm an Org newbie!) and Viper mode. I've
> noticed that there is a small incompatibility between the two, as Viper
> (at least in export mode) has "C-c /" set to a command related to search
> settings, whereas Org uses that for the sparse tree menu. To me it is
> not a big deal as Viper's C-c / is, IMO, a completely useless setting
> command, but it is still worth to be mentioned in manual section
> 14.7.2. Can you please do that?
> 
> Given my premise, my "solution" for that is simply to override Viper's
> C-c / as follows:
> 
>   (define-key viper-vi-global-user-map (kbd "C-c /") 'org-sparse-tree)
> 
> It is suboptimal since it sets "C-c /" as org-sparse-tree everywhere,
> while it would be better to do that only in Org mode buffers. I've tried
> with hooks and local maps, but I failed to obtain a more-local
> solution. If you find it, you might want to specify that rather than
> mine.
> 
> Thanks for Org!
> Cheers.
> 
> 
> Emacs  : GNU Emacs 23.1.50.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.18.3)
>  of 2009-10-23 on elegiac, modified by Debian
> Package: Org-mode version 6.31a
> 
> current state:
> ==============
> (setq
>  org-special-ctrl-a/e t
>  org-agenda-files '("~/example.org")
>  org-after-todo-state-change-hook '(org-clock-out-if-current)
>  org-agenda-skip-scheduled-if-done t
>  org-export-preprocess-hook '(org-export-blocks-preprocess)
>  org-tab-first-hook '(org-hide-block-toggle-maybe)
>  org-src-mode-hook '(org-src-mode-configure-edit-buffer)
>  org-confirm-shell-link-function 'yes-or-no-p
>  org-agenda-before-write-hook '(org-agenda-add-entry-text)
>  org-default-notes-file "~/dati/org/notes.org"
>  org-directory "~/dati/org"
>  org-cycle-hook '(org-cycle-hide-archived-subtrees org-cycle-hide-drawers org-cycle-show-empty-lines
> 		  org-optimize-window-after-visibility-change)
>  org-mode-hook '(#[nil "\300\301\302\303\304$\207" [org-add-hook change-major-mode-hook org-show-block-all append local] 5])
>  org-confirm-elisp-link-function 'yes-or-no-p
>  org-agenda-start-on-weekday nil
>  org-reverse-note-order t
>  org-insert-mode-line-in-empty-file t
>  org-occur-hook '(org-first-headline-recenter)
>  org-from-is-user-regexp "\\<Stefano Zacchiroli\\>"
>  org-remember-templates '(("Web" 119 "* %?\n\n Source: %U, %c\n\n %i" nil "Note (Web)")
> 			  ("Mail" 109 "* %?\n\n Source: %u, %c\n %i" nil "Note (Mail)")
> 			  ("Note" 110 "* %?\n\n Source: %U, %c\n\n %i" nil "Note"))
>  org-link-abbrev-alist '(("debbug" . "http://bugs.debian.org/"))
>  )
> 

Re: Org-mode version 6.31a; "conflicting packages" section lacks some (tiny) viper info

[Stefano Zacchiroli]

On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 06:37:33PM +0100, Stephan Schmitt wrote:
> I don't know if this helps, but did you try
> (global-unset-key (kbd "C-c /"))
> in your init file (before org-mode is loaded)?

Uhm, would that solution would be actually better than mine?
I mean, sure, it would be better in the sense that if in the future
Org-mode changes its handling of "C-c /" I will be ported to the new
behavior.

Still, this solution has the same problem of "globality" than mine: it
will affect all buffers and not only Org ones.

Thanks for the idea anyhow!
Cheers.

PS let me remind that the main bug reported here is the fact that there
   is no documentation about this incompatibility, still I welcome
   alternative solutions :)

-- 
Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7
zack@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/
Dietro un grande uomo c'è ..|  .  |. Et ne m'en veux pas si je te tutoie
sempre uno zaino ...........| ..: |.... Je dis tu à tous ceux que j'aime

Re: Org-mode version 6.31a; "conflicting packages" section lacks some (tiny) viper info

[Carsten Dominik]

Hi Stefano,

I have now mentioned this conflict in the manual (will show up on the
web after the next release).

- Carsten

On Oct 29, 2009, at 5:56 PM, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:

>
>
> Remember to cover the basics, that is, what you expected to happen and
> what in fact did happen.  You don't know how to make a good report?   
> See
>
>     http://orgmode.org/manual/Feedback.html#Feedback
>
> Your bug report will be posted to the Org-mode mailing list.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Heya,
>  I'm using Org mode (beware: I'm an Org newbie!) and Viper mode. I've
> noticed that there is a small incompatibility between the two, as  
> Viper
> (at least in export mode) has "C-c /" set to a command related to  
> search
> settings, whereas Org uses that for the sparse tree menu. To me it is
> not a big deal as Viper's C-c / is, IMO, a completely useless setting
> command, but it is still worth to be mentioned in manual section
> 14.7.2. Can you please do that?
>
> Given my premise, my "solution" for that is simply to override Viper's
> C-c / as follows:
>
>  (define-key viper-vi-global-user-map (kbd "C-c /") 'org-sparse-tree)
>
> It is suboptimal since it sets "C-c /" as org-sparse-tree everywhere,
> while it would be better to do that only in Org mode buffers. I've  
> tried
> with hooks and local maps, but I failed to obtain a more-local
> solution. If you find it, you might want to specify that rather than
> mine.
>
> Thanks for Org!
> Cheers.
>
>
> Emacs  : GNU Emacs 23.1.50.1 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version  
> 2.18.3)
> of 2009-10-23 on elegiac, modified by Debian
> Package: Org-mode version 6.31a
>
> current state:
> ==============
> (setq
> org-special-ctrl-a/e t
> org-agenda-files '("~/example.org")
> org-after-todo-state-change-hook '(org-clock-out-if-current)
> org-agenda-skip-scheduled-if-done t
> org-export-preprocess-hook '(org-export-blocks-preprocess)
> org-tab-first-hook '(org-hide-block-toggle-maybe)
> org-src-mode-hook '(org-src-mode-configure-edit-buffer)
> org-confirm-shell-link-function 'yes-or-no-p
> org-agenda-before-write-hook '(org-agenda-add-entry-text)
> org-default-notes-file "~/dati/org/notes.org"
> org-directory "~/dati/org"
> org-cycle-hook '(org-cycle-hide-archived-subtrees org-cycle-hide- 
> drawers org-cycle-show-empty-lines
> 		  org-optimize-window-after-visibility-change)
> org-mode-hook '(#[nil "\300\301\302\303\304$\207" [org-add-hook  
> change-major-mode-hook org-show-block-all append local] 5])
> org-confirm-elisp-link-function 'yes-or-no-p
> org-agenda-start-on-weekday nil
> org-reverse-note-order t
> org-insert-mode-line-in-empty-file t
> org-occur-hook '(org-first-headline-recenter)
> org-from-is-user-regexp "\\<Stefano Zacchiroli\\>"
> org-remember-templates '(("Web" 119 "* %?\n\n Source: %U, %c\n\n %i"  
> nil "Note (Web)")
> 			  ("Mail" 109 "* %?\n\n Source: %u, %c\n %i" nil "Note (Mail)")
> 			  ("Note" 110 "* %?\n\n Source: %U, %c\n\n %i" nil "Note"))
> org-link-abbrev-alist '(("debbug" . "http://bugs.debian.org/"))
> )
>
> -- 
> Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ.  
> Paris 7
> zack@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/
> Dietro un grande uomo c'è ..|  .  |. Et ne m'en veux pas si je te  
> tutoie
> sempre uno zaino ...........| ..: |.... Je dis tu à tous ceux que  
> j'aime
>
>
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- Carsten

Re: Org-mode version 6.31a; "conflicting packages" section lacks some (tiny) viper info

[Stefano Zacchiroli]

On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 06:47:38AM +0100, Carsten Dominik wrote:
> I have now mentioned this conflict in the manual (will show up on the
> web after the next release).

Thanks a lot Carsten!

Keep up the good work,
Cheers.

-- 
Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ Univ. Paris 7
zack@{upsilon.cc,pps.jussieu.fr,debian.org} -<>- http://upsilon.cc/zack/
Dietro un grande uomo c'è ..|  .  |. Et ne m'en veux pas si je te tutoie
sempre uno zaino ...........| ..: |.... Je dis tu à tous ceux que j'aime