From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Gregor Zattler Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs,gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs Subject: bug#1529: 23.0.60; Recursive load: tramp.elc Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2009 00:23:06 +0100 Message-ID: <20091027232306.GA16210@shi.workgroup> References: <493f3650.1abd600a.69f7.367d@mx.google.com> <87ljun8d42.fsf@gmx.de> <20081211061841.GA8024@Clio.twb.ath.cx> Reply-To: Gregor Zattler , 1529@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1256687276 10370 80.91.229.12 (27 Oct 2009 23:47:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 23:47:56 +0000 (UTC) To: "Trent W. 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Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org (fencepost.gnu.org [140.186.70.10]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id n9RNNnLw010769 for ; Tue, 27 Oct 2009 16:23:50 -0700 Original-Received: from mx10.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166]:36852) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1N2vOG-0003ty-S1 for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:23:48 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1N2vOC-0006YJ-Oz for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:23:48 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]:42620) by monty-python.gnu.org with smtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1N2vOC-0006Xd-10 for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:23:44 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 27 Oct 2009 23:23:41 -0000 Original-Received: from p54BD5008.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO shi.workgroup) [84.189.80.8] by mail.gmx.net (mp007) with SMTP; 28 Oct 2009 00:23:41 +0100 X-Authenticated: #19296480 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/1CtpowCb1GlvtWo3B2gYi0uosPzjgktaLqF2Gq3 pMdphz4IGiY1pm Original-Received: from grfz by shi.workgroup with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1N2vNu-0004QW-6N; Wed, 28 Oct 2009 00:23:26 +0100 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20081211061841.GA8024@Clio.twb.ath.cx> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.46 X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) Resent-Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 19:47:22 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:32256 gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs:25146 Archived-At: Dear emacs developers, * Trent W. Buck [11. Dec. 2008]: > On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 07:01:01AM +0100, Michael Albinus wrote: >> trentbuck@gmail.com writes: >> >>> I get this sometimes, and it's bloody annoying, because once I get it >>> I don't know how to actually use tramp without restarting Emacs. Same for me since a few days. Since a few days/weeks tramp is loaded every time a file is opened. That slows things down. This is GNU Emacs 23.1.50.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.18.3) of 2009-10-23 on elegiac, modified by Debian and this is the error message: require: Recursive load: "/usr/share/emacs/23.1.50/lisp/net/tramp.elc", "/usr/share/emacs/23.1.50/lisp/net/tramp-cmds.elc", "/usr/share/emacs/23.1.50/lisp/net/tramp.elc", "/usr/share/emacs/23.1.50/lisp/net/tramp-cmds.elc", "/usr/share/emacs/23.1.50/lisp/net/tramp.elc", "/usr/share/emacs/23.1.50/lisp/net/tramp-cmds.elc", "/usr/share/emacs/23.1.50/lisp/net/tramp.elc", "/usr/share/emacs/23.1.50/lisp/net/tramp-cmds.elc", "/usr/share/emacs/23.1.50/lisp/net/tramp.elc" >>> Loading tramp... >>> require: Recursive load: "/usr/share/emacs/23.0.60/lisp/net/tramp.elc", "/usr/share/emacs/23.0.60/lisp/net/tramp-cmds.elc", "/usr/share/emacs/23.0.60/lisp/net/tramp.elc", "/usr/share/emacs/23.0.60/lisp/net/tramp-cmds.elc", "/usr/share/emacs/23.0.60/lisp/net/tramp.elc", "/usr/share/emacs/23.0.60/lisp/net/tramp-cmds.elc", "/usr/share/emacs/23.0.60/lisp/net/tramp.elc", "/usr/share/emacs/23.0.60/lisp/net/tramp-cmds.elc", "/usr/share/emacs/23.0.60/lisp/net/tramp.elc" >> >> How do you load Tramp in your .emacs? Does it happen also, when you start >> "emacs -Q"? > > I don't load tramp in my .emacs. I can't reproduce this just by > starting a new Emacs, either with or without -Q -- it's something that > seems to happen only when there's some additional condition that I > rarely trigger. > > To give a completely unfounded example, it might only happen if Emacs > is started indirectly by emacsclient, and then later I try to use > ido-find-file. > > As far as I can remember, the error itself is always triggered when > using ido-find-file, and not when e.g. clicking on a file in dired. While I also have ido enabled here it now happens when calling emacs-client from a shell script which in turn is called by mutt in order to reply to an email. Therefore I write this bug report with "jed". Elsewhere in this thread/bug report the package emacs-goodies-el was mentioned. I have emacs-goodies-el installed. My personal emacs configuration has one tramp configuration: '(tramp-copy-size-limit 0 nil nil "otherwise TRAMP fails when there are no inline transport methods") but does not "require" nor "load" tramp. There is no file tramp.el or similar in my private load-path. I'm trapped in this recursion loop since emacs loads tramp even when I try kill-emacs. Now I killed emacs, started a new emacs session (no problems so far) and cut 'n paste the info it attaches to a bug report. I don't speak elisp but would like to help you debug this bug. Thanks for emacs, Gregor In GNU Emacs 23.1.50.1 (i486-pc-linux-gnu, GTK+ Version 2.18.3) of 2009-10-23 on elegiac, modified by Debian (emacs-snapshot package, version 1:20091023-1) configured using `configure '--build' 'i486-linux-gnu' '--host' 'i486-linux-gnu' '--prefix=/usr' '--sharedstatedir=/var/lib' '--libexecdir=/usr/lib' '--localstatedir=/var' '--infodir=/usr/share/info' '--mandir=/usr/share/man' '--with-pop=yes' '--enable-locallisppath=/etc/emacs-snapshot:/etc/emacs:/usr/local/share/emacs/23.1.50/site-lisp:/usr/local/share/emacs/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/23.1.50/site-lisp:/usr/share/emacs/site-lisp' '--with-x=yes' '--with-x-toolkit=gtk' 'build_alias=i486-linux-gnu' 'host_alias=i486-linux-gnu' 'CFLAGS=-DDEBIAN -DSITELOAD_PURESIZE_EXTRA=5000 -g -O2' 'LDFLAGS=-g -Wl,--as-needed' 'CPPFLAGS='' Important settings: value of $LC_ALL: nil value of $LC_COLLATE: C value of $LC_CTYPE: de_DE.utf8 value of $LC_MESSAGES: POSIX value of $LC_MONETARY: de_DE.utf8 value of $LC_NUMERIC: de_DE.utf8 value of $LC_TIME: de_DE.utf8 value of $LANG: de_DE.utf8 value of $XMODIFIERS: nil locale-coding-system: utf-8-unix default enable-multibyte-characters: t Major mode: Post Minor modes in effect: flyspell-mode: t savehist-mode: t recentf-mode: t global-hl-line-mode: t display-time-mode: t show-paren-mode: t ido-everywhere: t cua-mode: t tooltip-mode: t mouse-wheel-mode: t file-name-shadow-mode: t global-font-lock-mode: t font-lock-mode: t global-auto-composition-mode: t auto-composition-mode: t auto-encryption-mode: t auto-compression-mode: t size-indication-mode: t column-number-mode: t line-number-mode: t transient-mark-mode: t abbrev-mode: t Recent input: ESC x r e p o TAB C-g C-g C-h a b u g RET ESC ESC [ 6 ~ ESC ESC [ 6 ~ C-g C-g C-x 1 ESC x r e p o TAB r TAB RET Recent messages: Starting Emacs daemon. Modification-flag cleared Starting new Ispell process [deutsch8] ... Recognizing tables...done When done with a buffer, type C-x # Making completion list... Quit [2 times] Type C-x 1 to remove help window. Quit [2 times] Making completion list... 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