From: Dan Nicolaescu <dann@ics.uci.edu>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: Andreas Schwab <schwab@linux-m68k.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: BASE_PURESIZE
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 10:27:40 -0700 (PDT) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200910241727.n9OHReEu007324@godzilla.ics.uci.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83ljj1exq6.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 24 Oct 2009 15:18:57 +0200")
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> > From: Andreas Schwab <schwab@linux-m68k.org>
> > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> > Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 12:37:19 +0200
> >
> > Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
> >
> > > For the record, the extra use of purecopy caused the pure_bytes_used
> > > value to go up by 52KB on 32-bit Windows, and by 92KB on 64-bit
> > > GNU/Linux. So it looks like the ratio is actually closer to 9/5 than
> > > to either the old 10/6 or the new 11/7. Or maybe I'm missing
> > > something.
> >
> > It all depends on the ratio of string data vs. lisp object pure storage.
>
> I made some measurements. The ratio of 11/7 seems to work pretty
> well, but there are two additional problems:
>
> . The default value of SYSTEM_PURESIZE_EXTRA is zero, and is not
> increased for GUI builds. This causes a --without-x build to waste
> some 100KB. If we want to handle this, the basic constant in
> BASE_PURESIZE can be as low as 1290000 and SYSTEM_PURESIZE_EXTRA
> should have its default at 140000 for GUI builds, zero otherwise.
>
> . The amount of pure storage used by load-history depends on the
> length of the filename of the directory where Emacs is dumped. In
> my case, I have 32 characters before the "emacs/lisp/" part, so I'm
> guessing that's the main reason the value of 1430000 was too small
> for me.
We have 2 more problems with load-history: although in loadup.el is
purecopied, something still seems to maintain references to the file
name strings, they are still present as non-pure strings in the dumped
image both as absolute file names and as the arguments passed to load
(see the simple patch I posted yesterday to dump strings). So we are
still wasting memory on those.
It would be great if load-history would be constructed in pure memory
from the beginning when dumping (instead of purecopying later).
Maybe someone that understands that code could do that...
> We could decide that we don't care too much about the --without-x
IMHO --without-x is completely unimportant.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-10-24 17:27 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-10-23 11:00 BASE_PURESIZE Eli Zaretskii
2009-10-23 11:39 ` BASE_PURESIZE Andreas Schwab
2009-10-23 14:10 ` BASE_PURESIZE Eli Zaretskii
2009-10-23 14:24 ` BASE_PURESIZE Andreas Schwab
2009-10-23 14:35 ` BASE_PURESIZE Eli Zaretskii
2009-10-23 14:50 ` BASE_PURESIZE Andreas Schwab
2009-10-24 10:05 ` BASE_PURESIZE Eli Zaretskii
2009-10-24 10:37 ` BASE_PURESIZE Andreas Schwab
2009-10-24 13:18 ` BASE_PURESIZE Eli Zaretskii
2009-10-24 17:27 ` Dan Nicolaescu [this message]
2009-10-24 19:01 ` BASE_PURESIZE Stefan Monnier
2009-10-25 8:24 ` BASE_PURESIZE Dan Nicolaescu
2009-10-30 1:17 ` defcustom standard-value (was: Re: BASE_PURESIZE) Dan Nicolaescu
2009-10-24 19:04 ` BASE_PURESIZE Chong Yidong
2009-10-24 19:16 ` BASE_PURESIZE Dan Nicolaescu
2009-10-23 11:58 ` BASE_PURESIZE Dan Nicolaescu
2009-10-23 14:24 ` BASE_PURESIZE Juanma Barranquero
2009-10-24 4:41 ` BASE_PURESIZE Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-10-24 6:47 ` BASE_PURESIZE Dan Nicolaescu
2009-10-24 8:24 ` BASE_PURESIZE Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-10-24 10:22 ` BASE_PURESIZE Eli Zaretskii
2009-10-24 11:14 ` BASE_PURESIZE Stephen J. Turnbull
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-08-05 2:16 BASE_PURESIZE Nick Roberts
2006-08-05 9:41 ` BASE_PURESIZE Eli Zaretskii
2006-08-05 16:23 ` BASE_PURESIZE Reiner Steib
2006-08-05 18:51 ` BASE_PURESIZE Richard Stallman
2006-08-05 20:07 ` BASE_PURESIZE Reiner Steib
2006-08-06 4:43 ` BASE_PURESIZE Richard Stallman
2006-08-06 9:19 ` BASE_PURESIZE Reiner Steib
2006-08-06 19:40 ` BASE_PURESIZE Reiner Steib
[not found] ` <jebqqx393g.fsf@sykes.suse.de>
2006-08-07 3:53 ` BASE_PURESIZE Eli Zaretskii
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