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From: Dan Nicolaescu <dann@ics.uci.edu>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: Andreas Schwab <schwab@linux-m68k.org>, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: BASE_PURESIZE
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 10:27:40 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <200910241727.n9OHReEu007324@godzilla.ics.uci.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83ljj1exq6.fsf@gnu.org> (Eli Zaretskii's message of "Sat, 24 Oct 2009 15:18:57 +0200")

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

  > > From: Andreas Schwab <schwab@linux-m68k.org>
  > > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
  > > Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2009 12:37:19 +0200
  > > 
  > > Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
  > > 
  > > > For the record, the extra use of purecopy caused the pure_bytes_used
  > > > value to go up by 52KB on 32-bit Windows, and by 92KB on 64-bit
  > > > GNU/Linux.  So it looks like the ratio is actually closer to 9/5 than
  > > > to either the old 10/6 or the new 11/7.  Or maybe I'm missing
  > > > something.
  > > 
  > > It all depends on the ratio of string data vs. lisp object pure storage.
  > 
  > I made some measurements.  The ratio of 11/7 seems to work pretty
  > well, but there are two additional problems:
  > 
  >  . The default value of SYSTEM_PURESIZE_EXTRA is zero, and is not
  >    increased for GUI builds.  This causes a --without-x build to waste
  >    some 100KB.  If we want to handle this, the basic constant in
  >    BASE_PURESIZE can be as low as 1290000 and SYSTEM_PURESIZE_EXTRA
  >    should have its default at 140000 for GUI builds, zero otherwise.
  > 
  >  . The amount of pure storage used by load-history depends on the
  >    length of the filename of the directory where Emacs is dumped.  In
  >    my case, I have 32 characters before the "emacs/lisp/" part, so I'm
  >    guessing that's the main reason the value of 1430000 was too small
  >    for me.

We have 2 more problems with load-history: although in loadup.el is
purecopied, something still seems to maintain references to the file
name strings, they are still present as non-pure strings in the dumped
image both as absolute file names and as the arguments passed to load
(see the simple patch I posted yesterday to dump strings).  So we are
still wasting memory on those.

It would be great if load-history would be constructed in pure memory
from the beginning when dumping (instead of purecopying later).
Maybe someone that understands that code could do that...

  > We could decide that we don't care too much about the --without-x

IMHO --without-x is completely unimportant.




  reply	other threads:[~2009-10-24 17:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-23 11:00 BASE_PURESIZE Eli Zaretskii
2009-10-23 11:39 ` BASE_PURESIZE Andreas Schwab
2009-10-23 14:10   ` BASE_PURESIZE Eli Zaretskii
2009-10-23 14:24     ` BASE_PURESIZE Andreas Schwab
2009-10-23 14:35       ` BASE_PURESIZE Eli Zaretskii
2009-10-23 14:50         ` BASE_PURESIZE Andreas Schwab
2009-10-24 10:05     ` BASE_PURESIZE Eli Zaretskii
2009-10-24 10:37       ` BASE_PURESIZE Andreas Schwab
2009-10-24 13:18         ` BASE_PURESIZE Eli Zaretskii
2009-10-24 17:27           ` Dan Nicolaescu [this message]
2009-10-24 19:01             ` BASE_PURESIZE Stefan Monnier
2009-10-25  8:24               ` BASE_PURESIZE Dan Nicolaescu
2009-10-30  1:17                 ` defcustom standard-value (was: Re: BASE_PURESIZE) Dan Nicolaescu
2009-10-24 19:04             ` BASE_PURESIZE Chong Yidong
2009-10-24 19:16               ` BASE_PURESIZE Dan Nicolaescu
2009-10-23 11:58 ` BASE_PURESIZE Dan Nicolaescu
2009-10-23 14:24 ` BASE_PURESIZE Juanma Barranquero
2009-10-24  4:41   ` BASE_PURESIZE Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-10-24  6:47     ` BASE_PURESIZE Dan Nicolaescu
2009-10-24  8:24       ` BASE_PURESIZE Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-10-24 10:22     ` BASE_PURESIZE Eli Zaretskii
2009-10-24 11:14       ` BASE_PURESIZE Stephen J. Turnbull
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2006-08-05  2:16 BASE_PURESIZE Nick Roberts
2006-08-05  9:41 ` BASE_PURESIZE Eli Zaretskii
2006-08-05 16:23   ` BASE_PURESIZE Reiner Steib
2006-08-05 18:51     ` BASE_PURESIZE Richard Stallman
2006-08-05 20:07       ` BASE_PURESIZE Reiner Steib
2006-08-06  4:43         ` BASE_PURESIZE Richard Stallman
2006-08-06  9:19           ` BASE_PURESIZE Reiner Steib
2006-08-06 19:40         ` BASE_PURESIZE Reiner Steib
     [not found]           ` <jebqqx393g.fsf@sykes.suse.de>
2006-08-07  3:53             ` BASE_PURESIZE Eli Zaretskii

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