From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jonathan Groll Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Anyone gone from mutt to Emacs? was: Re: Moving from Thunderbird to Emacs for mail and calendar Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:47:38 +0200 Message-ID: <20091014154738.GA2986@groll.co.za> References: <87d45vhcuo.fsf@mahal.sjds.teklibre.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1255535417 20114 80.91.229.12 (14 Oct 2009 15:50:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2009 15:50:17 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 14 17:50:07 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1My66z-0002N8-Db for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:50:01 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36222 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1My66y-0007fX-QL for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:50:00 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1My64w-0006jB-KG for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:47:54 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1My64r-0006gG-Et for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:47:53 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=57062 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1My64r-0006g6-9k for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:47:49 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.groll.co.za ([166.84.7.40]:34360) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1My64q-0007Qe-SU for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:47:49 -0400 Original-Received: by mail.groll.co.za (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 870085FDF4; Wed, 14 Oct 2009 17:47:38 +0200 (SAST) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (Linux mail 2.6.28-xen3-U-64 x86_64) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 1) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:68959 Archived-At: On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 02:11:07AM +0000, David Combs wrote: >A top-post: Here, someone went from Thunderbird (gui, etc) >to emacs, showing what he had to do to succeed. >(I include it all this once, so if expired for you, is >newified again.) > >Question: I use mutt on my isp-shell-account, and like it, >and use .1% of its capability (I think, so powerful is it). >Has anyone switched from mutt to emacs (temporarily or not)? >Comments? Like you I'm a mutt user who looks longingly into gnus-land but don't know if I have the energy to make the transition. Even after setting up a basic .gnus so that I could see the mails on my local IMAP server, I still had to stumble my way along. Pressing ^ to subscribe to my local IMAP 'newsgroups' was not intuitive. Before it'll be much use to me, I realised I still need to figure out how to: (0) Work out how to NOT have to subscribe to my inbox every time I start gnus! (1) Configure my summary INBOX buffer so that it shows the columns I want and is sorted like I want (2) Get BBDB address completion working (3) Do something about mail indexing (4) Work out how to read HTML mails that people send me with w3m None of these problems are on their own insurmountable, it just requires a lot of energy, and from where I stand doesn't offer me convincing benefits over using mutt with emacs 'set' as editor. I've put a lot of effort in over the last while getting mutt to work as I like it, and the increased benefits of using GNUs may not be worth the pain involved in getting there. Or maybe they do? Cheers, Jonathan