From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ed Reingold Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Defaulting to fancy diary display Date: Thu, 03 Sep 2009 13:02:44 -0500 Message-ID: <200909031802.n83I2i75021568@emr.cs.iit.edu> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1252001020 7947 80.91.229.12 (3 Sep 2009 18:03:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 3 Sep 2009 18:03:40 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Sep 03 20:03:33 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MjGeh-0003fq-Po for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 03 Sep 2009 20:03:32 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47632 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MjGeh-0001zo-Ap for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 03 Sep 2009 14:03:31 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MjGec-0001wm-6b for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Sep 2009 14:03:26 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MjGeX-0001vV-Ai for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Sep 2009 14:03:25 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=46802 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MjGeX-0001vS-5w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Sep 2009 14:03:21 -0400 Original-Received: from emr.cs.iit.edu ([216.47.142.126]:43055) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MjGeQ-0006qB-Jt; Thu, 03 Sep 2009 14:03:14 -0400 Original-Received: from emr.cs.iit.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by emr.cs.iit.edu (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n83I2i75021568; Thu, 3 Sep 2009 13:02:54 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.7.2 01/07/2005 with nmh-1.0.4 In-Reply-To: Message from Richard Stallman of "Thu, 03 Sep 2009 13:16:28 EDT." X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 9 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:115008 Archived-At: > The only advantage of the simple display is that you can edit the > diary file directly. > > I think this is a fundamental advantage. I wish we could implement > the other features of fancy diary display while preserving this. > It's no advantage at all; it is a fundamental DISadvantage to have the default be the simple file with lines concealed. Of course that is the file you need to edit, but what you want to look at in the processed file, ie the fancy form. It's like insisting that you only look at the .tex file, never the .pdf output. The present setup is (and always was) a dumb decision (not mine!).