From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alan Mackenzie Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: next bugfix release? Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 22:56:45 +0000 Message-ID: <20090819225645.GA2813@muc.de> References: <87praszybe.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <838whgik6y.fsf@gnu.org> <87prardif2.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> <200908191946.n7JJkpAm001304@godzilla.ics.uci.edu> <87vdkjsecq.fsf@stupidchicken.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1250722460 15280 80.91.229.12 (19 Aug 2009 22:54:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2009 22:54:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Dan Nicolaescu , Stefan Monnier , joakim@verona.se, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Chong Yidong Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 20 00:54:12 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Mdu2j-0000yt-E0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 00:54:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34024 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mdu2i-0003Tr-N9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:54:08 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mdu2e-0003Tm-W1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:54:05 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Mdu2a-0003TG-8L for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:54:04 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=55510 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Mdu2a-0003TD-4C for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:54:00 -0400 Original-Received: from colin.muc.de ([193.149.48.1]:2261 helo=mail.muc.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Mdu2Z-0003CK-Go for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 19 Aug 2009 18:53:59 -0400 Original-Received: (qmail 41976 invoked by uid 3782); 19 Aug 2009 22:53:54 -0000 Original-Received: from acm.muc.de (pD9E519E3.dip.t-dialin.net [217.229.25.227]) by colin2.muc.de (tmda-ofmipd) with ESMTP; Thu, 20 Aug 2009 00:53:51 +0200 Original-Received: (qmail 3311 invoked by uid 1000); 19 Aug 2009 22:56:46 -0000 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <87vdkjsecq.fsf@stupidchicken.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/1.1.5 (Fettercairn) X-Primary-Address: acm@muc.de X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: FreeBSD 4.6-4.9 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:114420 Archived-At: Hi, Everybody! On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 05:06:29PM -0400, Chong Yidong wrote: > Dan Nicolaescu writes: > > Are there any plans for the next release? > The plan (and Stefan agrees) is to spend about the same amount of time > as we did between 22.1 and 22.2. This would put 23.2 around April next > year. > > IMO we need to make a bug fix release ASAP, this bug: > > http://emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=4146 > > warrants it. Not being able to set the C style in a file (or > > directory) local variable is a major annoyance for users. OK. This is for me to fix, so I'm acknowledging having seen it. > This bug is pretty serious. Happily, it only affects the trunk; the > 23.1 release is unaffected. Phew! Thanks for that! > The most likely culprit is the 2009-07-18 change to cc-mode.el, which > we did not apply to the release branch. Yes. It's one of these @dfn{wallpaper paste} bugs, where when you press an area of wallpaper firmly to the wall, the paste under it pops up another bit of wallpaper somewhere else. It's going to be a horrible bug to fix. Indeed, it may not be fixable, in the sense of doing the Right Thing under every reasonable circumstance. -- Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).