From: Daniel Colascione <danc@merrillprint.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org, xahlee@gmail.com
Cc: Daniel Colascione <danc@merrillpress.com>,
Lennart Borgman <lennart.borgman@gmail.com>,
Deniz Dogan <deniz.a.m.dogan@gmail.com>,
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
Leo <sdl.web@gmail.com>, Miles Bader <miles@gnu.org>
Subject: "Font-lock is limited to text matching" is a myth
Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 13:35:23 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <200908101335.24002.danc@merrillprint.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <aa6b5cbe0908092251u670fbd3bg2fc4c14857d32c17@mail.gmail.com>
On Monday 10 August 2009, Xah Lee wrote:
> emacs's syntax coloring is based on text pattern matching. It might work
> faster or more smooth right now, but from technology point of view, its one
> generation behind.
This is a common misconception I'd like to dispel. font-lock is *NOT* limited to using regular expressions. Yes, regular expressions are its default mode of operation, and for most languages, they are sufficient. But font-lock has the ability to mix and match several different kinds of fontification. Let's not reinvent the wheel.
There are two approaches to go beyond regular expression matching in font-lock: first, one can use a function as a font-lock matcher instead of a regular expression. That function can be arbitrarily complex, and can look at as much of the buffer as is necessary to fontify correctly. When this function locates a pattern to match, it returns control to font-lock, which fontifies it like any other interesting tidbit it found.
If that's not good enough, you can also have your font-lock "matcher" actually perform the fontification itself. cc-mode, espresso-mode, and nxml-mode use this technique. The basic idea is to find interesting patterns in the region of interest, then call font-lock-apply-highlight on them to perform the actual fontification. Because the "matcher" function is still using the font-lock infrastructure, font-lock will respect the fontification and behave correctly in other respects.
Using one of these two techniques allows a mode to use arbitrarily-complex fontification while still integrating with user-supplied keywords (e.g., from font-lock-add-keywords), various font-lock enhancement modes like jit-lock, and all other normal Emacs infrastructure.
It's *really* not necessary to bypass font-lock to get fontification to be as complex as you want. Just look at cc-mode.
> it'd be nice if emacs provides syntax parsing infrastructure.... nmxl, js2,
> cedet, can be leads in this direction and see how things work out.
It already does. It's called font-lock. If you want some kind of infrastructure that uses a grammar to perform fontification, I believe CEDET, which will be included in Emacs, can be wired up that way [I think? I'm not quite sure whether Semantic's tags are generic enough for fontification].
But using font-lock is not "a generation behind". Really, most editors' hard-coded highlighting features are a generation behind font-lock!
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-08-10 17:35 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 122+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-08-09 23:34 Why js2-mode in Emacs 23.2? Deniz Dogan
2009-08-09 23:38 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-09 23:46 ` Daniel Colascione
2009-08-09 23:50 ` Deniz Dogan
2009-08-09 23:56 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-09 23:56 ` Daniel Colascione
2009-08-09 23:55 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-09 23:58 ` Daniel Colascione
2009-08-10 0:00 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-10 0:06 ` Daniel Colascione
2009-08-10 0:17 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-10 0:46 ` Daniel Colascione
2009-08-10 0:55 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-10 0:18 ` Leo
2009-08-10 0:49 ` Daniel Colascione
2009-08-10 7:06 ` Carsten Dominik
2009-08-10 8:44 ` Leo
2009-08-10 8:54 ` CHENG Gao
2009-08-10 9:26 ` Leo
2009-08-10 10:22 ` Richard Riley
2009-08-10 15:21 ` eval-after-load not harmful after all (Was: Re: Why js-2mode?) Daniel Colascione
2009-08-10 17:01 ` Drew Adams
2009-08-10 17:21 ` eval-after-load not harmful after all Stefan Monnier
2009-08-11 0:43 ` eval-after-load not harmful after all (Was: Re: Why js-2mode?) Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-08-11 0:46 ` Drew Adams
2009-08-11 14:06 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-08-11 15:08 ` eval-after-load not harmful after all Stefan Monnier
2009-08-16 21:43 ` Leo
2009-08-17 0:34 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-17 11:44 ` Leo
2009-08-17 11:55 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-17 12:26 ` Leo
2009-08-17 14:40 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-11 0:53 ` eval-after-load not harmful after all (Was: Re: Why js-2mode?) Lennart Borgman
2009-08-11 3:06 ` Daniel Colascione
2009-08-11 9:17 ` Leo
2009-08-11 14:37 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-08-10 10:41 ` Why js2-mode in Emacs 23.2? Carsten Dominik
2009-08-10 13:04 ` Leo
2009-08-10 14:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-08-11 1:13 ` Glenn Morris
2009-08-11 3:02 ` Daniel Colascione
2009-08-11 4:28 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2009-08-11 4:33 ` Daniel Colascione
2009-08-11 4:39 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2009-08-11 4:45 ` Daniel Colascione
2009-08-11 4:37 ` Glenn Morris
2009-08-10 2:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-08-10 2:55 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-10 13:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-08-10 0:32 ` Leo
2009-08-10 0:48 ` Daniel Colascione
2009-08-10 2:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-08-10 3:24 ` Miles Bader
2009-08-10 3:27 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-10 3:45 ` Daniel Colascione
2009-08-10 5:18 ` Jason Rumney
2009-08-10 5:51 ` Xah Lee
2009-08-10 6:22 ` Xah Lee
2009-08-10 6:59 ` Miles Bader
2009-08-10 11:01 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-10 17:35 ` Daniel Colascione [this message]
2009-08-10 18:04 ` "Font-lock is limited to text matching" is a myth Lennart Borgman
2009-08-10 20:42 ` David Engster
2009-08-10 20:51 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-10 22:06 ` Eric M. Ludlam
2009-08-10 22:19 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-11 1:50 ` Eric M. Ludlam
2009-08-11 6:47 ` Steve Yegge
2009-08-11 9:17 ` Miles Bader
2009-08-11 12:13 ` Daniel Colascione
2009-08-11 14:37 ` Miles Bader
2009-08-11 14:49 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-11 14:57 ` Daniel Colascione
2009-08-11 14:53 ` Daniel Colascione
2009-08-11 15:08 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-11 15:36 ` Miles Bader
2009-08-11 15:56 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-08-11 15:54 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-11 17:00 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-08-11 17:19 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-11 15:57 ` Miles Bader
2009-08-11 17:06 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2009-08-11 14:50 ` Chong Yidong
2009-08-11 15:06 ` Daniel Colascione
2009-08-11 15:11 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-11 15:16 ` Daniel Colascione
2009-08-11 15:44 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-11 18:04 ` joakim
2009-08-11 18:08 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-11 19:12 ` joakim
2009-08-11 17:09 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-08-11 16:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-08-11 18:10 ` Edward O'Connor
2009-08-12 1:58 ` Steve Yegge
2009-08-12 13:48 ` Chong Yidong
2009-08-12 16:07 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-12 22:08 ` Steve Yegge
2009-08-14 1:22 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-08-12 2:16 ` Eric M. Ludlam
2009-08-12 6:43 ` Miles Bader
2009-08-12 11:28 ` Xah Lee
2010-11-23 14:43 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-08-12 15:21 ` asynchronous parsing (was: "Font-lock is limited to text matching" is a myth) Ted Zlatanov
2009-08-12 17:16 ` asynchronous parsing joakim
2009-08-12 19:39 ` Ted Zlatanov
2009-08-12 20:01 ` joakim
2009-08-13 2:51 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-08-13 14:51 ` Ted Zlatanov
2009-08-11 19:48 ` "Font-lock is limited to text matching" is a myth Lennart Borgman
2009-08-10 18:47 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-08-10 18:55 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-11 3:33 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-08-10 14:49 ` Why js2-mode in Emacs 23.2? Stefan Monnier
2009-08-10 6:46 ` Deniz Dogan
2009-08-10 14:53 ` Stefan Monnier
2009-08-10 14:05 ` Stephen Eilert
2009-08-10 14:37 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-10 14:42 ` Deniz Dogan
2009-08-10 19:12 ` Stephen Eilert
2009-08-10 14:41 ` Deniz Dogan
2009-08-10 14:57 ` Lennart Borgman
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