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From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
To: Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>, 3501@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com
Subject: bug#3501: 23.0.94; Use Unicode in Info (?)
Date: Tue, 9 Jun 2009 17:17:58 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20090609171758.GB11634@muc.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CEA3B46F10834364B599F19FC937AEFD@us.oracle.com>

Hi, Drew!

On Mon, Jun 08, 2009 at 08:23:49PM -0700, Drew Adams wrote:
> > > Can't we use Unicode or in some other way use accented characters in
> > > people's names (when appropriate)?

> I was thinking of display - what the user sees. But it should, if
> possible, affect also searching (including regexp searching) and any
> other behavior the user can notice. The user should experience only the
> fancy character, both visually and every other way.

Please no.  I absolutely do not want to "experience" fancy unicode characters
when reading info.  It's bad enough getting them in email and in usenet
postings from Xah Lee.  ;-)  ASCII can be displayed perfectly on any
screen or teletype or even punched card puncher that can display English
at all.  Unicode, by contrast, needs a fancy setup, even if lots of
computers already have such a setup.

Unless accented hackers (of whom we're not two) find the ASCII rendering
of their names offensive, but I haven't seen any evidence of this.

> What is in the actual file is not important here, except in so far as
> it might affect perception.

> > What goes into the Info files depends on the directives in the
> > Texinfo sources and on the command line arguments used when makeinfo
> > was invoked to produce the Info files.  You will see in the `doc'
> > directory that we already invoke makeinfo with --enable-encoding
> > switch in some cases.

> Whatever is already done is not sufficient in this regard, as indicated
> in the original report: I don't see composed characters; I see
> punctuation in the middle of people's names. I see J/orgensen, not
> Jørgensen.

Is that bad?  J/orgensen is more readable (IMHO) than JÀ«rgensen (or
whatever that letter's two bytes actually are).

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).





  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-06-09 17:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-06-08 21:58 bug#3501: 23.0.94; Use Unicode in Info (?) Drew Adams
2009-06-09  3:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-06-09  3:23   ` Drew Adams
2009-06-09  3:42     ` Eli Zaretskii
2009-06-09  4:10       ` Drew Adams
2009-06-09 17:17     ` Alan Mackenzie [this message]
2009-06-09 17:43       ` Drew Adams
2009-06-09 18:17         ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-06-09 19:56           ` Drew Adams
2009-06-09 21:10             ` Alan Mackenzie
2009-06-09 21:31               ` Lennart Borgman
2009-06-09 22:48           ` Jason Rumney
2009-06-09 17:46       ` Lennart Borgman
2009-06-25 23:12 ` Stefan Monnier

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