From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dan Nicolaescu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#3080: 23.0.92; emacsclient can not open frame without visiting file Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 19:33:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <200904230233.n3N2XHI3013727@godzilla.ics.uci.edu> References: <200904222125.n3MLP4kN008572@godzilla.ics.uci.edu> <20090423003855.GK7931@finestructure.net> Reply-To: Dan Nicolaescu , 3080@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1240454652 14889 80.91.229.12 (23 Apr 2009 02:44:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 02:44:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 3080@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com, rfrancoise@debian.org To: Jameson Rollins Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 23 04:45:31 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LwowM-0003Cb-S9 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 23 Apr 2009 04:45:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:47371 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Lwoux-00035W-S7 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2009 22:44:03 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Lwouu-00035H-1j for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2009 22:44:00 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Lwoup-00032n-Mj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2009 22:43:59 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=36556 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Lwoup-00032g-Ba for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2009 22:43:55 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:47127) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Lwouo-0004md-Rs for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2009 22:43:55 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n3N2hqws020732; Wed, 22 Apr 2009 19:43:52 -0700 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n3N2e3kL019499; Wed, 22 Apr 2009 19:40:03 -0700 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Dan Nicolaescu Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2009 02:40:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 3080 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 3080-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B3080.124045404818250 (code B ref 3080); Thu, 23 Apr 2009 02:40:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 3080) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 23 Apr 2009 02:34:08 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. Original-Received: from sallyv2.ics.uci.edu (sallyv2.ics.uci.edu [128.195.1.120]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n3N2Y5Ze018244 for <3080@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Wed, 22 Apr 2009 19:34:06 -0700 Original-Received: from godzilla.ics.uci.edu (godzilla.ics.uci.edu [128.195.10.101]) by sallyv2.ics.uci.edu (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n3N2XI2d018324; Wed, 22 Apr 2009 19:33:18 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: (from dann@localhost) by godzilla.ics.uci.edu (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.6/Submit) id n3N2XHI3013727; Wed, 22 Apr 2009 19:33:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20090423003855.GK7931@finestructure.net> (Jameson Rollins's message of "Wed, 22 Apr 2009 17:38:55 -0700") Original-Lines: 64 X-ICS-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ICS-MailScanner-ID: n3N2XI2d018324 X-ICS-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ICS-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-1.44, required 5, autolearn=disabled, ALL_TRUSTED -1.44) X-ICS-MailScanner-From: dann@godzilla.ics.uci.edu X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 22:43:59 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:27408 Archived-At: Jameson Rollins writes: > On Wed, Apr 22, 2009 at 02:25:04PM -0700, Dan Nicolaescu wrote: > > Jameson Rollins writes: > > > > > emacsclient does not allow for opening a frame, either in a terminal > > > or in a new X frame, with*out* touching a file. This is maybe only an > > > issue when emacs is run in --daemon mode where an initial frame is not > > > created. It is often useful to open up an emacs without having a > > > particular file that needs to be editted, and this is not currently > > > possible. In fact, I would prefer to see emacsclient behave more like > > > the "classical" emacs behaves. I would like to see the following > > > behavior, that I think makes more sense and is more compatible with > > > the classic interface: > > Hi, Dan. Thanks for the response. What I was trying to outline below > was partially whether the functionality worked or not, but also that > the emacsclient interface is different that the standard emacs > interface, and that this seems a little bit unfortunate, seeing as > they could be the same. Would it be possible to have them be the > same? Sure, AFAIR they were the same at some point after the multi-tty merge, but they got changed back (no idea why, you might want to dig through the mailing list). > > > emacsclient > > > opens up a new frame with *scratch* > > does not work, it seems intentional, no idea why. > > This is also the main thing that I was having issue with not working. > Is there any reason the behavior of just having emacsclient called > without any arguments open up an empty frame can't be supported? AFAIK there's no technical reason. It might be too late for the current release cycle though. > jamie. > > > > emacsclient > > > opens up a new frame with > > > > emacsclient -c > > does this > > > > > > > emacsclient -nw > > > opens up a new frame in the current terminal with *scratch* > > > > this works > > > > > emacsclient -nw > > > opens up a new frame in the current terminal with > > > > this works > > > > > emacsclient - > > > opens up in an already opened "master" frame > > > > emacsclient > > does this > > > >