From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Taylor Venable Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Font Problem with 23.0.92.1 - wrong font used Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 22:48:24 -0400 Message-ID: <20090417024824.GA19189@metasyntax.net> References: <20090408050247.GD5160@metasyntax.net> <20090410213806.GH5160@metasyntax.net> <20090413173850.GA30710@metasyntax.net> <20090414031419.GF6280@metasyntax.net> <20090414115004.GH6280@metasyntax.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=unknown-8bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1239936642 3178 80.91.229.12 (17 Apr 2009 02:50:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 02:50:42 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Kenichi Handa Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 17 04:52:01 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LueBH-0006rN-N0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 17 Apr 2009 04:51:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:60714 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Lue9s-0006Az-PC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 16 Apr 2009 22:50:28 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Lue9n-0006Ak-0N for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Apr 2009 22:50:23 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Lue9l-0006AY-8L for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Apr 2009 22:50:21 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=36620 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Lue9l-0006AV-3H for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Apr 2009 22:50:21 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.perfora.net ([74.208.4.195]:52655) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Lue9k-0006lR-Lc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 16 Apr 2009 22:50:20 -0400 Original-Received: from metasyntax.net (pool-71-127-85-87.aubnin.fios.verizon.net [71.127.85.87]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MKpCa-1Lue9W0qkz-000cnR; Thu, 16 Apr 2009 22:50:08 -0400 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.19 (2009-01-05) X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX19hE4EibT/YHKbHzHFhIw8g9GREpzoKBkBBUW8 eTh33hAjkKRLYDn9NOZU5n4wL0QBzGHSa+PrFoEBNyplEf+u+a qdJbN4GUXEmYxe7acPRuw== X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:110320 Archived-At: On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 10:43:01AM +0900, Kenichi Handa wrote: > I've just installed several fixes. Could you try again? > > Note that now xft backend can distinguish average-width font > property for BDF/PFC fonts. So you should be able to see > the different font with these settings. I updated from CVS about ten hours ago and all indications are that this has worked. I can now see the PCF font exactly as I expect with or without the Japanese font present. Thanks very much! The XFT support is great and beautiful but sometimes the speed in rendering of the plain old X fonts is best. > In article <20090414115004.GH6280@metasyntax.net>, Taylor Venable writes: > > > On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 12:49:48PM +0900, Kenichi Handa wrote: > > > In article <20090414031419.GF6280@metasyntax.net>, Taylor Venable writes: > > > > > > > > Ummm, weird. Please define this function: > > > > > > > > > > (defun font-file-at () > > > > > (interactive) > > > > > (message "%s" (aref (query-font (font-at (point))) 1))) > > > > > > > > > > and run it while putting cursor on "abc..." of `default', > > > > > `mode-line-inactive', and `tooltip' lines in *Faces* buffer > > > > > that is shown by M-x list-faces-display RET. > > > > > > > First, when the Japanese font is present: > > > > > > > default: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/7x13-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz > > > > mode-line-inactive: [the same] > > > > tooltip: [the same] > > > > > > > Strangely enough, the font shown as the example for 'default' is not > > > > the font used in the buffer display; again it appears to be the semi- > > > > condensed variant, whereas the font used in the buffer display appears > > > > to be the correct normal variant. > > > > > > What is reported when you run font-file-at on a character > > > displayed by that normal variant? > > > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/7x13.pcf.gz > > > In other words, it seems as if this is the font that should be used > > for the 'default' face. > > > > And, the XLFD of 7x13-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz is: > > > -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-120-75-75-c-70-iso8859-1 > > > Please run this and check if it is the font you mean by > > > semicondensed variant? > > > > > > % xfd -fn -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-120-75-75-c-70-iso8859-1 > > > No, this looks like what I want; in xfontsel it's specified by sWdth = > > normal and avgWdth = 70. What I've been calling the "semi-condensed > > variant" is specified by sWdth = semicondensed and avgWdth = 60. > > > However, I can tell by just looking at it that when that font file > > name is reported, the font being used is not the one with the XFLD > > listed above and in my .emacs file. > > > > Also please check if the font shown by this is what you mean > > > by normal variant: > > > > > > % xfd -fn -misc-fixed-medium-r-normal--13-120-75-75-c-80-iso8859-1 > > > This is too wide; the font that I've told Emacs to use as the default > > has an avgWdth of 70, not 80. > > > > > If I do M-x customize-face default I notice that the value > > > > has been set outside customize, and telling it to set for > > > > the current session redisplays the buffer using the semi- > > > > condensed face. > > > > > > > When I run this function on 'bold' I get nil. Finding a face that > > > > looks like what I want and see in the buffer display, the function > > > > reports the value as /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/7x13.pcf.gz - but > > > > the font for the 'bold-italic' face which also looks correct (there is > > > > no italic slant variant for the -misc-fixed font I'm using) is > > > > /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/8x13B-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz > > > Is there meaning to the fact that the function returns nil for the > > 'bold' face? Or perhaps it's an unrelated issue? > > > > > ======================================== > > > > > > > Without the Japanese font in the font path, I get these: > > > > > > > default: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/7x13.pcf.gz > > > > bold: /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/8x13B-ISO8859-1.pcf.gz > > > > > > I still can't reproduce that phenomenon; i.e. the existence > > > of Japanese fonts affects the font selection. > > > This is on OpenBSD so maybe there's something weird in how X is setup; > > I'll find a Linux box today to test on and see if there's any similar > > or different behaviour there. > > > Thanks, > > > -- > > Taylor Christopher Venable > > http://real.metasyntax.net:2357/ > -- Taylor Christopher Venable http://real.metasyntax.net:2357/ ((λ x . x x) (λ x . x x))