From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Taylor Venable Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Continuing Font Problems: Some XFT fonts not using XFT engine? Date: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 21:10:02 -0400 Message-ID: <20090416011001.GJ6280@metasyntax.net> References: <20090415201122.GA28776@metasyntax.net> <87tz4p5yk7.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <49E67E8A.20402@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1239844325 13959 80.91.229.12 (16 Apr 2009 01:12:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Apr 2009 01:12:05 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Miles Bader To: Jason Rumney Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 16 03:13:24 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LuGAO-0002cH-5A for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 16 Apr 2009 03:13:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54428 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LuG8z-0003Tu-7u for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 15 Apr 2009 21:11:57 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LuG8s-0003TN-QJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Apr 2009 21:11:50 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LuG8r-0003Sp-Pz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Apr 2009 21:11:50 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=57460 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LuG8r-0003Sm-N9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Apr 2009 21:11:49 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.perfora.net ([74.208.4.195]:52840) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LuG8o-0002ag-QW; Wed, 15 Apr 2009 21:11:46 -0400 Original-Received: from metasyntax.net (pool-71-127-85-87.aubnin.fios.verizon.net [71.127.85.87]) by mrelay.perfora.net (node=mrus1) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0MKpCa-1LuG8k3qDF-000d0I; Wed, 15 Apr 2009 21:11:46 -0400 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <49E67E8A.20402@gnu.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17) X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+g/g3IKVaD7Ot3gbEVfjS3IatFzl3DTWYeix1 l22rP26xeCxP7svbk+kup2doPHv0YBUFvVHnpWkaxj9J+gPp0o y9JlcwKHJTn/C/r6PLD0w== X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:110305 Archived-At: On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 08:40:42AM +0800, Jason Rumney wrote: > Miles Bader wrote: >> This isn't such a problem for most apps, which only understand one of >> the two types of fonts, but it may terribly confuse Emacs, which can >> handle both simultaneously. >> > > There should be an order imposed on font backends. So one backend should > always take precedence over the other, and duplicate font names should > not matter. It used to work that way, but it seems from reports of this > type that something has changed recently. In my default-frame-alist I had set (font-backend . "xft, x") -- removing the "x" backend has prevented the use of the bitmap font. This is fine for me since I only use one or the other, but it seems that there could be a problem in stable precedence since I could "randomly" get either a bitmapped or XFT font. I should also note (if I haven't already) that I didn't see this behaviour on my Ubuntu box at work, so I wonder (what with the several problems I've had with fonts on OpenBSD) if it could have something to do with some underlying font libraries. I just checked and the bitmap versions of those fonts are available on that machine as well. Best regards, -- Taylor Christopher Venable http://real.metasyntax.net:2357/