From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dan Nicolaescu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#2825: 23.0.91; initial-buffer-choice useless with emacs daemon Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 08:13:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <200904111513.n3BFD6fp012593__44450.1635655344$1239463544$gmane$org@godzilla.ics.uci.edu> References: <87ocv5mei7.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> Reply-To: Dan Nicolaescu , 2825@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1239463458 25294 80.91.229.12 (11 Apr 2009 15:24:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 15:24:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 2825@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Chong Yidong Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Apr 11 17:25:36 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Lsf5E-0007MN-N4 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 17:25:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:36204 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Lsf3p-0005vQ-Qq for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:24:01 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Lsf3l-0005sv-A2 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:23:57 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Lsf3g-0005j9-KN for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:23:56 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=33610 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Lsf3g-0005ih-Cn for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:23:52 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu ([138.23.92.77]:56206) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Lsf3f-0001IK-Mj for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:23:52 -0400 Original-Received: from rzlab.ucr.edu (rzlab.ucr.edu [127.0.0.1]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n3BFNnYA028474; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 08:23:49 -0700 Original-Received: (from debbugs@localhost) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id n3BFK3HX027324; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 08:20:03 -0700 X-Loop: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com Resent-From: Dan Nicolaescu Resent-To: bug-submit-list@donarmstrong.com Resent-CC: Emacs Bugs Resent-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 15:20:03 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: owner@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com X-Emacs-PR-Message: followup 2825 X-Emacs-PR-Package: emacs X-Emacs-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 2825-submit@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com id=B2825.123946280826019 (code B ref 2825); Sat, 11 Apr 2009 15:20:03 +0000 Original-Received: (at 2825) by emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com; 11 Apr 2009 15:13:28 +0000 X-Spam-Bayes: score:0.5 Bayes not run. spammytokens:Tokens not available. hammytokens:Tokens not available. Original-Received: from barrelv2.ics.uci.edu (barrelv2.ics.uci.edu [128.195.1.114]) by rzlab.ucr.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n3BFDPg5026007 for <2825@emacsbugs.donarmstrong.com>; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 08:13:26 -0700 Original-Received: from godzilla.ics.uci.edu (godzilla.ics.uci.edu [128.195.10.101]) by barrelv2.ics.uci.edu (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n3BFD7Qa016959; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 08:13:07 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: (from dann@localhost) by godzilla.ics.uci.edu (8.13.8+Sun/8.13.6/Submit) id n3BFD6fp012593; Sat, 11 Apr 2009 08:13:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87ocv5mei7.fsf@cyd.mit.edu> (Chong Yidong's message of "Thu, 09 Apr 2009 22:25:20 -0400") Original-Lines: 27 X-ICS-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-ICS-MailScanner-ID: n3BFD7Qa016959 X-ICS-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-ICS-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-1.44, required 5, autolearn=disabled, ALL_TRUSTED -1.44) X-ICS-MailScanner-From: dann@godzilla.ics.uci.edu X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) Resent-Date: Sat, 11 Apr 2009 11:23:56 -0400 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:27082 Archived-At: Chong Yidong writes: > > the new variable initial-buffer-choice seems useless when using emacs > > as a daemon and emacsclient. This variable probably sets the initial > > frame of the daemon, but does not affect the emacs clients. The buffer > > is opened but not visible, the *scratch* buffer is opened instead. > > Currently, server-create-tty-frame and server-create-window-system-frame > are hardcoded to display *scratch* if no emacsclient argument is given. > In bug #2825, Damien Cassou has argued that they should obey > initial-buffer-choice. > > Are there any objections? Showing the startup screen every time when connecting to the server can be seriously annoying for the user. This situation is not equivalent with showing the startup screen when starting emacs because we assume that emacs is not started very often. Connecting/disconnecting to the server is a much more frequent action for some use cases. So changing this at this point does not sound like a good idea. If it needs to be changed at all it can wait until 23.2. If many people don't like it we'll generate yet another very long discussion (like all discussions about the startup screen), and it's simply not worth it when trying to get a release out.