From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: tomas@tuxteam.de Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Printing Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 12:08:22 +0200 Message-ID: <20090402100822.GC28589@tomas> References: <5f0660120903280331y780c80b7i57a8115dc4b029eb@mail.gmail.com> <5f0660120903281352v5d7ab83cy44fcff3cbf4581cb@mail.gmail.com> <87ljqnkvn9.fsf@jehiel.elehack.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; x-action=pgp-signed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1238666782 14147 80.91.229.12 (2 Apr 2009 10:06:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 2 Apr 2009 10:06:22 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Apr 02 12:07:40 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LpJpc-0001nl-QC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 02 Apr 2009 12:07:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:53374 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LpJoF-00020L-6G for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 02 Apr 2009 06:06:07 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LpJmO-0001VV-7Q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Apr 2009 06:04:12 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LpJmJ-0001U4-C7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Apr 2009 06:04:11 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=43429 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LpJmI-0001Tu-Vq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 02 Apr 2009 06:04:07 -0400 Original-Received: from alextrapp1.equinoxe.de ([217.22.192.104]:36753 helo=www.elogos.de) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LpJmG-0004rm-Kr; Thu, 02 Apr 2009 06:04:04 -0400 Original-Received: by www.elogos.de (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B87C390069; Thu, 2 Apr 2009 12:08:22 +0200 (CEST) Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.15+20070412 (2007-04-11) X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:109994 Archived-At: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wed, Apr 01, 2009 at 06:14:59AM +0300, Eli Zaretskii wrote: [...] > > What other way to print are you thinking of? >=20 > The way every modern platform does that: through a printer API, > whereby you select fonts and layout, then render text to some device, [...] Hm. I know that's the modern "trend", but I am unconvinced that it is in the end a Good Thing. Implement all those interfaces for $rendering_system_du_jour (GTK, QT, Windows 32, whatever) instead of going for one more or less abstract (Postscript, PDF), well-documented and widely implemented? What next: implement the virtual file systems on the graphics toolkit? Oh, wait... (sorry if it sounds too ranty: it isn't personal. But watching all the desktop environments implement things which belong to other layers of the system is painful, especially in the Free Software context). Regards - -- tom=C3=A1s -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFJ1I6WBcgs9XrR2kYRAoD+AJ99+hGyjdIpFcWUkYWC/cIGdP710wCfWMpg Pamv7XloQkOBuPlf4x/yj0A=3D =3D2ezH -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----